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Kansas St v BYU GAME ON BOYS!~

by CougarClaw · 3/21/2010

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BroncoBot
BPcougs wrote:
how hard is it to get in their shooters face, instead of giving them a 5 foot cushion to have target practice?

This has been a problem all year.
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CannonCougar85
Why can we not guard the 3?



Why can we not get rebounds?



EVER!!
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storminmormon
Italics wrote:
Yndian wrote:
Kansas has had 7 more shots than us. Four FGs, 2 3pters and 1 Foul shot.



That's what rebounding will do to you.



And Jimmer does look a bit winded.


He's having a real hard time against Pullen.


They could alleviate a lot of that by having Loyd bring up the ball and working off Jimmer at the 2.


Yeah, this.



Two major adjustments that NEED to be made at halftime:



1) Loyd starts taking down the ball



2) JT doesn't set foot on the court again



3) TAKE IT TO THE HOOP! For the most part, we are drawing the fouls. But on the perimeter, we can't get a call to save our lives.


My thoughts exactly
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wildeone
Why we havent been taking it in is because the refs DO NOT CALL FOULS ON KSTATE!!!! THEY HAVE BEEN TACKLING OUR PLAYERS AND NOT CALLING FOULS!!!
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FurriousCougar
I say start the 2nd half off playing MAN with a line-up of Loyd, Emery, Abouo, Miles, Jimmer. See them score then.
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CougarClaw
It's not like K state is shooting lights out either percentage-wise.



Am I seeing this right? K State has 25 rebounds (7 offensive) to our 16 (3 offensive)?

They have so many more shots than we do and all we can do is foul underneath the basket.
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BroncoBot
CougarClaw wrote:
Anyone else feel like BYU needs to start taking it RIGHT AT THE KSU defense?


You have to get around your guy in order to take it to them. Announcers are right. Jimmer can't get around Cullen? Pullen? Whatever his name is.



Anderson is in. Wow. Seriously. Wow.

Ball movement is the answer. BYU has had none. Everyone is content to watch Jimmer do his thing (which has been forced plays and TOs so far).



BYU looks REALLY tired.
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BPcougs
after the first 5 3's you would think that they would get in their face and make them earn it. JT is a disease to this team, he better not see the court in the 2nd half.
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storminmormon
FurriousCougar wrote:
I say start the 2nd half off playing MAN with a line-up of Loyd, Emery, Abouo, Miles, Jimmer. See them score then.


Abuou needs to get some serious PT in the second half. He can rotate quick enough to get out on people and he can body up to get rebounds.
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CougarClaw
Actually I like the whole putting anderson in for a few minutes. Give them something else to talk about at halftime - like how to throw it to the middle as soon as possible while he's in.



we'll likely see more of this later on in the second.



BYU 6-22 to end the half.

Jimmer has more TO's than FGs.



If you're Rose, what do you tell Jimmer to do? Pass it to Lloyd?
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BroncoBot
CougarClaw wrote:
It's not like K state is shooting lights out either percentage-wise.



Am I seeing this right? K State has 25 rebounds (7 offensive) to our 16 (3 offensive)?

They have so many more shots than we do and all we can do is foul underneath the basket.

Knowing that this was a key to the game, it's almost unbelievable that BYU has done this poorly.



We've all heard that rebounding comes down to heart and effort. Hopefully BYU can pick it up in the second half.
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BroncoBot
CougarClaw wrote:
Actually I like the whole putting anderson in for a few minutes. Give them something else to talk about at halftime - like how to throw it to the middle as soon as possible while he's in.



we'll likely see more of this later on in the second.



BYU 6-22 to end the half.

Jimmer has more TO's than FGs.



If you're Rose, what do you tell Jimmer to do? Pass it to Lloyd?

Just tell him to pass period. Did anyone else touch the ball the last 5-6 mintes?
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CannonCougar85
I think it's pretty obvious that we need to stop that stupid double team in the 2nd half. 29 of their points are from the guards NOT their big guys. We have to adjust to this!!
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CougarClaw
declocoug wrote:
It's not like K state is shooting lights out either percentage-wise.



Am I seeing this right? K State has 25 rebounds (7 offensive) to our 16 (3 offensive)?

They have so many more shots than we do and all we can do is foul underneath the basket.

Knowing that this was a key to the game, it's almost unbelievable that BYU has done this poorly.



We've all heard that rebounding comes down to heart and effort. Hopefully BYU can pick it up in the second half.


I think BYU has been attacking the basket better than they normally do myself, but the calls AND the bounces have gone against them, and frankly, it seems to me that K-State is just better at getting to them.
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Italics
To be honest guys, Jimmer just isn't doing it this game.



The guys who are currently playing the best need to be the guys who come out in the second half:



Loyd

Emery

Haws

Abouo

Andersen



rotate the big guys out for Miles, Davies, and Hartsock to keep guys out of foul trouble.



Right now the players getting it done best are Emery and Haws. Both have been quick and intelligent on defense, and both have been doing good things with their offensive efforts. Of course, Emery needs to stop turning the ball over NOW, or else I'd rather see Jimmer/Loyd.
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BroncoBot
CannonCougar85 wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that we need to stop that stupid double team in the 2nd half. 29 of their points are from the guards NOT their big guys. We have to adjust to this!!

I'd like to know how many of those guard points are 2nd chance points after a miss by a big. The double is working awesome, BYU just can't get the rebound.
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BPcougs
the double is working awesome for Pullens 3 point shot
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BroncoBot
Italics wrote:
To be honest guys, Jimmer just isn't doing it this game.



The guys who are currently playing the best need to be the guys who come out in the second half:



Loyd

Emery

Haws

Abouo

Andersen



rotate the big guys out for Miles, Davies, and Hartsock to keep guys out of foul trouble.



Right now the players getting it done best are Emery and Haws. Both have been quick and intelligent on defense, and both have been doing good things with their offensive efforts. Of course, Emery needs to stop turning the ball over NOW, or else I'd rather see Jimmer/Loyd.

So basically the guys that haven't touched the ball much. lol. props to Pullen. He's one tough cat.
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Italics
declocoug wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that we need to stop that stupid double team in the 2nd half. 29 of their points are from the guards NOT their big guys. We have to adjust to this!!

I'd like to know how many of those guard points are 2nd chance points after a miss by a big. The double is working awesome, BYU just can't get the rebound.


KSU is missing more than I had hoped them to. Just too many second and third opportunities.



I don't care how much BYU scores in the second half. If our guys don't start boxing out and rebounding immediately, there is just absolutely no way we win.
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BroncoBot
Italics wrote:
CannonCougar85 wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that we need to stop that stupid double team in the 2nd half. 29 of their points are from the guards NOT their big guys. We have to adjust to this!!

I'd like to know how many of those guard points are 2nd chance points after a miss by a big. The double is working awesome, BYU just can't get the rebound.


KSU is missing more than I had hoped them to. Just too many second and third opportunities.



I don't care how much BYU scores in the second half. If our guys don't start boxing out and rebounding immediately, there is just absolutely no way we win.

True dat bro.
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