by crazycougar84601 · 6/3/2010
CannonCougar85 wrote:
I can see Colorado wanting to join the PAC-1 as they recruit heavily on the west coast.
I don't really see any of the others very eager to join.
But let's say magically it does happen, does the Big-12 then dissolve or does the BIG-12 invite BYU, Utah, TCU and BSU to fill the void?
If the latter happens then I don't think the Big-12 would be much better then the MWC is now, especially if BSU is added to the MWC on Monday.
BYUgrad03 wrote:I can see Colorado wanting to join the PAC-1 as they recruit heavily on the west coast.
I don't really see any of the others very eager to join.
But let's say magically it does happen, does the Big-12 then dissolve or does the BIG-12 invite BYU, Utah, TCU and BSU to fill the void?
If the latter happens then I don't think the Big-12 would be much better then the MWC is now, especially if BSU is added to the MWC on Monday.
I disagree. You have to look at who we would replace as conference opponents if Utah, BYU, TCU and Boise St were to be invited to help fill that void if those above mentioned teams left for the Pac-10. Instead of New Mexico, Wyoming, UNLV and San Diego St, we would play Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri and take your pick of the remaining teams in the Big 12. Even their bottom dwellers are better (for the most part) than our bottom four. Nebraska looks to be on its way back and will be a serious contender for the Big 12 title this year, Missouri is decent, and Kansas as we all know is a basketball power, but has been good (with this past year as an exception) at football over the last 5-6 years with one BCS bowl win under its belt. If we brought in Airforce and Colorado St, that would include the Denver market potentially lost if Colorado moves which would be very appealing to the Big 12. I think it would be a very strong conference. Although I don't think it will happen. I see those Big 12 teams leaving for the Big 10 before I see them staying in a newly formed Big 12.
Mingjai wrote:
If the rumored 6 go to the Pac 10, then I'm sure the Big Ten would expand and probably take Mizzou and Nebraska (among others), leaving Kansas, K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor. If anything, I would think the MWC should be doing the inviting, but none of those schools are desirable. I can see Kansas in the Big East (assuming it still remains viable) because Kansas is really a basketball school--it would fit right in with Louisville, UConn, West Virginia, and Syracuse (assuming it doesn't get a Big Ten invite).
Mars wrote:
If the PAC-10 raids the Big XII, take two of whoever remains, in this order: Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, and Kansas State, as well as Boise State.
33311710 wrote:
[quote="Mingjai")I'm sick and tired of all the talk - will something just happen already?
UPDATE: The AP is now running a story on this topic which is suggesting that no unanimity could be achieved at the Big 12 meetings in Kansas City today, according to quotes from University of Oklahoma Athletic Director Joe Castiglione. That has led to a press conference delay from Big 12 officials until tomorrow, and increases the plausibility of a Big 12 break up (6:46 P.M., PDT) .
BREAKING: The invitations alleged in this article have just been confirmed by University of Colorado Athletic Director Mike Bohn (5:22 P.M., PDT) .
Step aside, Big Ten and SEC.
There might be a new sheriff in town, taking a dominant hold on the entire college football landscape.
According to Rivals.com, the Pac-10 is about to pre-empt everyone in the football world by offering a spot in its conference to six teams.
Those teams are:
Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M (or maybe Nebraska instead), and Texas Tech.
If all of the offers are accepted, the Pac-10 would have successfully created the most epic conference college football has ever seen, and the potential financial benefit to conference members would be undeniable.
Based upon the rumors (again, this is not concrete yet) the Pac-10 will extend the offers this weekend, potentially as early as tomorrow (Friday).
The conference would be set up with Arizona and Arizona State joining an eight team division with the other new schools, and then a second division composed of the eight Pacific Coast schools.
The story lines here are absolutely fantastic, as coaches like the pictured Bob Stoops would be pitted yearly against his brother, Mike Stoops.
Also, the potential tango between a perennial powerhouse like USC and Big 12 South all-stars like Oklahoma and Texas is certainly enough to raise some eyebrows.
Adding credibility to these claims is the fact that Missouri, despite a major summit of Big 12 schools currently underway, has just acknowledged that they cannot commit to the Big 12.
It appears that one of college football's strongest conferences might break up and give way to a new era, because if this happens the Big Ten's hand will also be forced.
Not much imagination is required to see Nebraska, Missouri, Notre Dame, and potentially other schools then migrating into the Big Ten to make the necessary adjustments to compete with this western monster, and the SEC would likely need to expand as well.
This alleged series of events would be the most drastic change in the storied history of all of college football, and for once, it actually seems viable.
For the teams involved in the Pac-10 and Big 12, the monetary opportunity is undeniable, as they could create quite a television monopoly.
Rivals.com is reporting that Fox Cable Networks is interested in making this happen and that revenues would be astronomical.
Texas A&M is supposedly having difficulty stomaching the move to the Pac-10, and might try to jump on board with the SEC if the Big 12 breaks up. In a similar fashion, Nebraska is not particularly interested in the Big Ten.
So another possibility would be Texas A&M out and Nebraska in to preserve some of the history of the old Big 8.
Texas is in favor of maintaining a conference allegiance for non-conference games with the Pac-10, and is trying to hold the Big 12 together. That is certainly another viable option, but it remains to be seen how many teams will get on board with that.
The Pac-10 seems uninterested in that idea, preferring a full-blown merger.
Mars wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/22802/the-mountain-west-might-be-more-secure-after-recent-news?prosaction=newpost&status=ok
A conference needs at least eight members to keep its automatic qualifying status and the Big 12 would be left with Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State. That would put teams such as TCU, Utah, Colorado State and New Mexico right in the Big 12âs crosshairs mostly because of their unique television markets (and probably Houston and Tulsa, too).
Schmoe wrote:
I dunno, I just don't see the point of jumping from the Big XII to the PAC, am I missing something?
Cougarbib2 wrote:
It may come down to 4 conferences of 16 teams each breaking ranks with the NCAA or forcing the NCAA to create a new Division and then every one else will be in a new division called mid major leftover division.
PurpleReign wrote:
I dunno, I just don't see the point of jumping from the Big XII to the PAC, am I missing something?Money. Has nothing to do with tradition and everything to do with a TV Network with around 7 of the top 20 markets in the country being in the same conference. The Big12 currently does not have equal revenue sharing, which is the biggest reason it might break up. Hypothetically, if this merger happened, with the expected TV Network, the teams would get around $20 million each per year from TV revenue, which doubles the $9m/yr that the other conferences with TV networks make.
BYUgrad03 wrote:[quote="Mingjai")I'm sick and tired of all the talk - will something just happen already?
Ditto. This is getting old. As long as all of this expansion talk results in a benefit to us in some way, that's all I care about.
Personally, my dream situation would've been us replacing a Big 12 school namely Mizzou with the rest of the conference intact. I would've loved to have played the likes of...well all the Big 12 south schools (exception Baylor) and Nebraska in football at least every year or two.
