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Chip Bown Tweeting that TT, OU, OSU, and UT to Pac 10

by BYUgrad03 · 6/11/2010

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BYUgrad03
http://twitter.com/ChipBrownOB



Whether this is true or not remains to be seen. The question it raises, if Texas A&M doesn't come along, who fills that void? Baylor, Kansas or maybe Utah? Say it's Utah?



I have to ask, does Utah really want to be in the same division as OU, TT, OSU and Texas? Not that TT and OSU are powerhouses, but they're no slouches either. To face teams like that in potentially consecutive weeks would be brutal.



They could find themselves fighting for the Pac east doormat for years to come. Them leaving may not be such a bad idea. :evil:
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CannonCougar85
It took me a minute to realize that by UT you mean Texas and not Utah. ;)



This guy has been pretty reliable so far.

Hopefully BYU is on the horn with the Big 12 today and is being proactive. BYU can save the Big 12 as a conference by bringing the teams necessary.

I don't think the Big 12 leftovers will want to join the MWC strictly because of the TV deal.
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BYUgrad03
FIFY.



I know I was thinking the same thing. I hope BYU is being proactive with this and not just sitting by. I have to say that the biggest loser in all of this is Beebe, the commisioner of the Big 12. That guy hasn't done a thing except stand by and watch his conference, and his reputation, destruct.



At the same time, if Utah does get an invite to fill the A&M void, I'm not sure that would be a great move for them from a competition standpoint. One could look to the Arkansas move to the SEC back in the early 90's. They have a good season here and there, but nothing consistent enough to be proud of.
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craigoscarson
BYUgrad03 wrote:
http://twitter.com/ChipBrownOB



Whether this is true or not remains to be seen. The question it raises, if Texas A&M doesn't come along, who fills that void? Baylor, Kansas or maybe Utah? Say it's Utah?



I have to ask, does Utah really want to be in the same division as OU, TT, OSU and Texas? Not that TT and OSU are powerhouses, but they're no slouches either. To face teams like that in potentially consecutive weeks would be brutal.



They could find themselves fighting for the Pac east doormat for years to come. Them leaving may not be such a bad idea. :evil:




Kansas is working on a Pac 10 invite and thinks their hoops could drive the bus with the others.
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BYUgrad03
Kansas is working on a Pac 10 invite and thinks their hoops could drive the bus with the others.


I think that's their best argument, and it could be enough to push them ahead of everyone else under consideration. I guess I just liked the idea of Utah getting pummeled week in and week out for a while.
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craigoscarson
A highly-placed official from a Big 12 school confirmed Friday that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will join the Pac-10 Conference once formal offers are made to them, but said that Texas A&M officials remain on the fence between joining the Pac-10 or the SEC.



“The decision has been made,” the official told the American-Statesman. “We’re bringing everybody to the Pac-10 but A&M.”



The official said the Aggies have a 72-hour timetable to decide whether to accept the Pac-10’s offer. The official also said those formal offers could be made over the weekend.



The Texas board of regents have called an 11 a.m. meeting next Tuesday, and a formal announcement is expected later that day. Regents at Texas Tech also will meet on Tuesday, at 2 p.m.
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gmj81
Yeah?... well, where was chip on the BSU realignment. Puh, shows how much he knows!
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BYUgrad03
gmj81 wrote:
Yeah?... well, where was chip on the BSU realignment. Puh, shows how much he knows!


No kidding! I'll never take that dude seriously again.
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craigoscarson
gmj81 wrote:
Yeah?... well, where was chip on the BSU realignment. Puh, shows how much he knows!


Chip has been all over the place.... he's simply tweeting the most and getting a lot of attention. I do think that the Austin Statesma hs a ton more credibility and they're saying the same thing now.
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Florwood
BYUgrad03 wrote:
One could look to the Arkansas move to the SEC back in the early 90's. They have a good season here and there, but nothing consistent enough to be proud of.


118-88 (2 ties), Three divisional championships, no conference championships, 3-7 bowl record in the 18 years they've been a part of the SEC



BYU in the same time frame?



150-75, eight conference championships, 5-7 bowl record
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BYUgrad03
craigoscarson wrote:
Yeah?... well, where was chip on the BSU realignment. Puh, shows how much he knows!


Chip has been all over the place.... he's simply tweeting the most and getting a lot of attention. I do think that the Austin Statesma hs a ton more credibility and they're saying the same thing now.


The guy has been pretty incredible considering. I'm sure a lot more people now about Chip Brown than they did before this last week.
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BYUgrad03
Florwood wrote:
One could look to the Arkansas move to the SEC back in the early 90's. They have a good season here and there, but nothing consistent enough to be proud of.


118-88 (2 ties), Three divisional championships, no conference championships, 3-7 bowl record in the 18 years they've been a part of the SEC



BYU in the same time frame?



150-75, eight conference championships, 5-7 bowl record


So what should we take from this?
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gmj81
Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if Chip's "source" was a higher-up in the UT organization, releasing info to Chip and pulling his strings (he's a puppet) to control how things are going on in the expansion landscape. Only problem seems to be, as yet no one is buying it.



I still don't think the Big XII South joins the Pac-x. It just doesn't make much sense no matter how you look at it.
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craigoscarson
gmj81 wrote:
Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if Chip's "source" was a higher-up in the UT organization, releasing info to Chip and pulling his strings (he's a puppet) to control how things are going on in the expansion landscape. Only problem seems to be, as yet no one is buying it.



I still don't think the Big XII South joins the Pac-x. It just doesn't make much sense no matter how you look at it.


Yhe Austin papers are saying the same thing though...
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gmj81
I'm sure they're using him as their source. Everyone else is.



Seriously, try to find a story anywhere that hasn't originated in some form from Chip's tweets.
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Lawboy
Exactly. It all goes back to orangebloods.com. Chip is THE source for all of this. If he is wrong, the house of cards falls. But if he is right, Tuesday will be a huge day. I hope he is being played like a fiddle.
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BYUgrad03
Lawboy wrote:
Exactly. It all goes back to orangebloods.com. Chip is THE source for all of this. If he is wrong, the house of cards falls. But if he is right, Tuesday will be a huge day. I hope he is being played like a fiddle.


That's an entertaining thought. He has been incredible up to this point, but what if...Texas goes to the Big 10, or somewhere else? What would he be remembered for? All that he got right, or the BIG ole whiff at the end?
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PurpleReign
Texas will either stay in the B12 or go to the P10, no other option makes any sense at all. The SEC is locked into a TV contract, already has tons of competition, and are all low-tier schools for academics, something UT cares about.



The Big10 is simply too far away, UT would be an outpost school and they don't want to do that. They are closer geography wise to the P10, than they are to the SEC or B10. And quite honestly, Austin is closer culturally to the Pac10 than the SEC.



My bet is Texas and the other four either stay in the Big 12 or they join the PAC 16, there is really no other option unless they side with their own ego and go Independent like Notre Dame LOL.
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snoscythe
PurpleReign wrote:
Texas will either stay in the B12 or go to the P10, no other option makes any sense at all. The SEC is locked into a TV contract, already has tons of competition, and are all low-tier schools for academics, something UT cares about.



The Big10 is simply too far away, UT would be an outpost school and they don't want to do that. They are closer geography wise to the P10, than they are to the SEC or B10. And quite honestly, Austin is closer culturally to the Pac10 than the SEC.



My bet is Texas and the other four either stay in the Big 12 or they join the PAC 16, there is really no other option unless they side with their own ego and go Independent like Notre Dame LOL.


If you are measuring geography by states, then yes, UT is closer to the PAC-10 than the others, but UT is just as close to the University of Nebraska (the nearest Big 10 school) as they are to the University of Arizona (the nearest PAC 10 school. What's more, most of the Big 10 schools are closer than Los Angeles, and even the farthest Big 10 school, PSU, is 30% closer than the farthest Pac10 school, UW.



The SEC is even closer to home. Fans can get from Austin to the nearest SEC campus in less than 9 hours (Arkansas) as opposed to over 14 hours to the nearest Pac-10 school (Arizona). The farthest SEC campus is Lexington, KY at 16.5 hours away--closer to Austin than all PAC-10 schools except Arizona and Arizona State (yes, it's even closer to Austin than CU).



Culturally, I agree with you that UT is a left-wing fortress, but geographically, you need a new atlas.
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