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Preseason AP Poll Top 25 Out

by Mars · 8/21/2010

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Airwolf
scott715 wrote:
Hey Airwolf is back. Had not seen him since we beat Oklahoma. Pessimism is back in fashion.

No, just reality.
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imuakahuku
Airwolf wrote:
Hey, at least he's making baby steps to reality. I think I gave him a bit too much credit, saying he only guaranteed 4 losses the last time we had to replace our quarterback, two best TE's, and BYU-rushing-record owning tailback. Before the '07 season, didn't he guarantee a losing record???



:lol: :lol: :lol:



Maybe we should be taking his ONLY 4 losses guarantee as a compliment!

How is an 8-4 prediction a slap in the face for this season??? Considering all that has transpired and what BYU lost in the off-season, that would be quite an accomplishment.


Its the guarantee that is the problem. Last time BYU was in this situation they went 11-2. They have won 10 or more games 4 years in a row showing that they can adjust from year to year as they lose key players.
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1967cougar
Welcome back, Wolfie. I missed you. Unlike many of the posters here who wish you'd never come back, I find your complete lack of reality and your inability to correctly report facts as a breath of fresh air. Keep 'em coming!
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Y12
Schmoe wrote:
The problem is the BCS vs Non-BCS bias. If we were in one of the big six and had been top-25 for four years straight we could lose the entire line, qb, four rbs, eight wrs, six tes, our entire starting d, all of them all-americans, the coach, the trainer, and the waterboy and still be ranked in the top 20.


Case in point: Florida

Tim Tebow gone (read Max Hall)

Aaron Hernandez gone (read Dennis Pitta)

Brandon Spikes gone (read Jan Jorgensen or Scott Johnson, whoever you prefer, point is best defender)



Where did Florida Finish 2009: #3

Where does Florida start 2010: #4
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Airwolf
imuakahuku wrote:
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
Hey, at least he's making baby steps to reality. I think I gave him a bit too much credit, saying he only guaranteed 4 losses the last time we had to replace our quarterback, two best TE's, and BYU-rushing-record owning tailback. Before the '07 season, didn't he guarantee a losing record???



:lol: :lol: :lol:



Maybe we should be taking his ONLY 4 losses guarantee as a compliment!

How is an 8-4 prediction a slap in the face for this season??? Considering all that has transpired and what BYU lost in the off-season, that would be quite an accomplishment.


Its the guarantee that is the problem.



So if I just leave it at 'my opinion' is 8-4, does that calm you down?



Last time BYU was in this situation they went 11-2. They have won 10 or more games 4 years in a row showing that they can adjust from year to year as they lose key players.



When was the last time BYU faced the prospect of a freshman starting at QB, losing your starting RB to the honor code, your best TE graduating and facing 3 teams ranked in the pre-season top 25 all on the road? And, the reason BYU is able to 'adjust' to losing key players, as you say, is because they get 5-6 automatic wins every year playing UNM, UNLV, CSU, Air Force, Wyoming and Suck Dog State (Aztecs)!
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Airwolf
1967cougar wrote:
Welcome back, Wolfie. I missed you.



Yeah, like a cancer patient misses their chemo. ;)



Unlike many of the posters here who wish you'd never come back, I find your complete lack of reality and your inability to correctly report facts as a breath of fresh air. Keep 'em coming!



No, I think you're confused 1967... the problem aren't the stats or data I post, it's how you guys interpret it and brush it off as 'twisted bias' that's the trouble.
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Guest
Airwolf wrote:
Airwolf wrote:
Hey, at least he's making baby steps to reality. I think I gave him a bit too much credit, saying he only guaranteed 4 losses the last time we had to replace our quarterback, two best TE's, and BYU-rushing-record owning tailback. Before the '07 season, didn't he guarantee a losing record???



:lol: :lol: :lol:



Maybe we should be taking his ONLY 4 losses guarantee as a compliment!

How is an 8-4 prediction a slap in the face for this season??? Considering all that has transpired and what BYU lost in the off-season, that would be quite an accomplishment.


Its the guarantee that is the problem.



So if I just leave it at 'my opinion' is 8-4, does that calm you down?


Absolutely yes. You have a horrible online presence. I don't know you in real life and if you're anything like your online self I don't want to know you. Your idea, as well reasoned as it may or may not be that BYU will lose 4 games is nothing more than an opinion. You do not have the power to guarantee it. In fact, stating things as your opinion, or even simply not guaranteeing and stating things as "fact" that you have no power over is probably a good way to not be banned from here.
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redneckjedi
Airwolf wrote:
Hey Airwolf is back. Had not seen him since we beat Oklahoma. Pessimism is back in fashion.

No, just reality.


Hey guys, I just found a picture of Airwolf's favorite t-shirt!



http://images0.cpcache.com/product/132562130v7_480x480_Front_Color-Black.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">



His fanhood of MythBusters may be the only good taste he has... ;)
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ABYUFAN
Airwolf wrote:




Are you saying you honestly saw BYU beating Oklahoma? :lol: That freak injury to Bradford was the only reason BYU didn't lose 3 games and yep... a 4 loss prediction would have been WAY OFF huh, especially when Utah, with a rookie QB, took 'em into OT at LES? :lol:


:lol: :lol: I was one loss away from only being one loss away fom my prediction being right ;)
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GolfDiveNCougs
Aww. I've insulted Airwolf, because (DUDE! Total sidenote, I'm typing aloud while my wife is watching the NFL.com rerun of the Bucs Chiefs game (yes, she's that awesome). So before I could get more than those first five words out, she says "I remember Airwolf... my mom used to watch that show." ROFL!!! Good news! He's still famous!!!)...ANNNNYWAY, before I was so rudely interrupted by my own parenthetical...



...because somebody didn't take him seriously. Tsk tsk. MAN are internet posters RUDE for not respecting someone who's CLEARLY more realistic than everybody else!



It was sweet of Kahuku to try to explain, though I'm thinking Howler (you know, I think that one should stick. :P ) new exactly what my point was.



I TOLD you we should take only 4 losses worth of guarantee as a compliment from you, Howler, not a slap in the face. Don't be so defensive, LaVerl!!



And of COURSE I didn't see BYU realistically beating Oklahoma 200 miles from Norman. Duh. You're right, that would have put you within one game of your prognostication (oh yeah, this IS assuming you actually posted a 4-loss guarantee last year, not more. I honestly don't recall... seeing you around... anywhere...)! And good for you, your mad math skills were right on target when you deduced that if 2 close wins would have ended up 2 close losses, if you added that to 2 more losses, you would have equalled 4 losses. Yay! Good on ya!



Point is, most of your guaranteed losses end up close games, and most close games in the last four years, BYU has WON. That makes your magic 4-loss guarantee turn into only one year in those four of even coming within TWO games of the correct tally.



Sticking to your guns after 4 years in a row of guarantees coming up WOEFULLY short of fruition? Yup, I'd say I've got the definition of the word absurdity down pretty good, thanks! Oh, and PS, yes, I'd consider your bias AND your blinders a BIG part of it!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Mars
Airwolf wrote:
How is an 8-4 prediction a slap in the face for this season??? Considering all that has transpired and what BYU lost in the off-season, that would be quite an accomplishment.

You ever saying a single intelligent thing would be quite an accomplishment.
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BTIB
I think it is hilarious that Airwolf can totally derail a thread so quickly. Don't you guys realize that is exactly what he wants?



Keep it coming Airwolf. I need a good laugh every once in a while.



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