Apo out 6 weeks

Dislocated finger yesterday ended up needing surgery today. Looks like a probably RS for the kid.



Get well soon.

Probably saw this coming anyway. Did not play v. UW, and as highly touted as he was, and the chemistry he had with Jake, that was a surprise. This makes it easier to slap that RS on him. Also means the other guys in the group have 1 less guy breathing down their necks to push them. Hope they step up.

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Bummer. Glad he didn't play in the first game though so as to avoid having to deal with the ncaa in getting that year back.



i think with our wide receivers this year this is not a huge blow. It will give him time ot learn and get better. him and jake will be ready to go for texas next year.

Dang, too bad he couldn't get any experience out there on the field. Hopefully he'll be able to perform right off the bat next season.

Is this kid fragile? Luke Staley redux? All the talent in the world, but can't stay healthy? This is already his second surgery at BYU.

What's worse is how it happened:



"Apparently Heaps did not get the memo from Kitic and Sno about taking some steam off his passes. Today Ross Apos finger was ripped clean off while trying to bring in a Heaps pass on a slant." --Jay Drew



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This is a blessing in disguise I think, Apo has all the upside in the world but wasn't picking up the offense quickly enough. RS him, give him a full year in the offense before he has to go live and he'll terrorize DBs for 4 years after that.

QuarterbackU wrote:
What's worse is how it happened:



"Apparently Heaps did not get the memo from Kitic and Sno about taking some steam off his passes. Today Ross Apos finger was ripped clean off while trying to bring in a Heaps pass on a slant." --Jay Drew



tic

Ok, that is hilarious! (the part about jay drew) ;)

Lawboy wrote:
Probably saw this coming anyway. Did not play v. UW, and as highly touted as he was, and the chemistry he had with Jake, that was a surprise. This makes it easier to slap that RS on him. Also means the other guys in the group have 1 less guy breathing down their necks to push them. Hope they step up.

He's #11 right? If so... He played on special teams. I saw his number on the field and had to double check in the program.



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BigCougsFan wrote:

Probably saw this coming anyway. Did not play v. UW, and as highly touted as he was, and the chemistry he had with Jake, that was a surprise. This makes it easier to slap that RS on him. Also means the other guys in the group have 1 less guy breathing down their necks to push them. Hope they step up.

He's #11 right? If so... He played on special teams. I saw his number on the field and had to double check in the program.



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If so, he played in less than 1/4 of our games before his injury, so depending on how long he is medically unavailable, a medical RS is still available.

BerliNY wrote:
This is a blessing in disguise I think, Apo has all the upside in the world but wasn't picking up the offense quickly enough. RS him, give him a full year in the offense before he has to go live and he'll terrorize DBs for 4 years after that.

+1. Agreed.



Of all the players - the 4 I was most excited to see play this year - Heaps, Quezada, Van Noy & Apo - I'm gladd Apo will get to Red Shirt; to heal & re-group. He'll come back next year w/ a full head of steam, bigger, stronger, attitude & all the freshman/rookie jitters gone. A blessing in disguise. All good all around in the long run. Best wishes w/ a complete & speedy recovery!!!!

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Apo played in a couple special teams plays against Washington, which means he cannot take a "normal" redshirt year. The injury won't sideline him for the rest of the season, so he cannot ask the NCAA for a medical redshirt.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogs/byusports/50259531-65/byu-apo-college-cannot.html.csp

snoscythe wrote:

Lawboy wrote:
Probably saw this coming anyway. Did not play v. UW, and as highly touted as he was, and the chemistry he had with Jake, that was a surprise. This makes it easier to slap that RS on him. Also means the other guys in the group have 1 less guy breathing down their necks to push them. Hope they step up.

He's #11 right? If so... He played on special teams. I saw his number on the field and had to double check in the program.



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If so, he played in less than 1/4 of our games before his injury, so depending on how long he is medically unavailable, a medical RS is still available.

In college you can have duplicate numbers. There could be another #11 on the team.

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BigCougsFan wrote:

Probably saw this coming anyway. Did not play v. UW, and as highly touted as he was, and the chemistry he had with Jake, that was a surprise. This makes it easier to slap that RS on him. Also means the other guys in the group have 1 less guy breathing down their necks to push them. Hope they step up.

He's #11 right? If so... He played on special teams. I saw his number on the field and had to double check in the program.



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If so, he played in less than 1/4 of our games before his injury, so depending on how long he is medically unavailable, a medical RS is still available.

In college you can have duplicate numbers. There could be another #11 on the team.

Bronco has verified that Apo played at least two downs.

snoscythe wrote:

snoscythe wrote:

Lawboy wrote:
Probably saw this coming anyway. Did not play v. UW, and as highly touted as he was, and the chemistry he had with Jake, that was a surprise. This makes it easier to slap that RS on him. Also means the other guys in the group have 1 less guy breathing down their necks to push them. Hope they step up.

He's #11 right? If so... He played on special teams. I saw his number on the field and had to double check in the program.



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If so, he played in less than 1/4 of our games before his injury, so depending on how long he is medically unavailable, a medical RS is still available.

In college you can have duplicate numbers. There could be another #11 on the team.

Bronco has verified that Apo played at least two downs.

If Ross doesn't play again this season, rest assured that he'll get at bare minimum a hardship year back if not a medical redshirt. You don't have to have a season ender to retain your redshirt, you have to not play a certain amount of quarters and your injury has to be on record.



I see this entire move as a bit of posturing by BYU to ensure that if the time comes that Ross wants that last year, that it's a possibility.



My good friend Tony Temple of Missouri was on the cusp of getting another year back and he played an entire game midway through his freshman year. They decided not to play him again in hopes that a pretty mild ankle injury he received would help grant him that year back. It didn't and i spoke to Tony as to why, and he said the NCAA told him that he played the majority of 3 quarters in that game and there was no clear belief that his injury would have cost him anymore time (he didn't have surgery). Tony rushed for 284 yards against Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl his senior year and had hoped that he'd get another back. He said it was very very close and the vote was split.



Ross had surgery and didnt' play much if at all. I don't see this is as a major problem. Truth is, it might not matter. Ross has the physical talent that by the time that Jake Heaps and his class are seniors, Ross would likely be looking at the NFL draft anyhow (assuming his game catches up with his talent and he stays injury free).

My understanding of the Apo situation is that an open finger dislocation isn't considered "incapacitating" by the NCAA and only "incapacitating" injuries qualify for a medical hardship. The length of time you are out is also considered in deciding whether the injury is incapacitating.

snoscythe wrote:
My understanding of the Apo situation is that an open finger dislocation isn't considered "incapacitating" by the NCAA and only "incapacitating" injuries qualify for a medical hardship. The length of time you are out is also considered in deciding whether the injury is incapacitating.

Google "open finger dislocation" in Google images if you dare. It sure would be incapacitating for me :sick:



But as for Apo I do not see how he could get a redshirt or a medical redshirt based off of the rules as I understand them. It's too bad. This would have been the perfect situation for him to redshirt. Would have given him 4 full seasons instead of 3 1/2.

CannonCougar85 wrote:

My understanding of the Apo situation is that an open finger dislocation isn't considered "incapacitating" by the NCAA and only "incapacitating" injuries qualify for a medical hardship. The length of time you are out is also considered in deciding whether the injury is incapacitating.

Google "open finger dislocation" in Google images if you dare. It sure would be incapacitating for me :sick:



But as for Apo I do not see how he could get a redshirt or a medical redshirt based off of the rules as I understand them. It's too bad. This would have been the perfect situation for him to redshirt. Would have given him 4 full seasons instead of 3 1/2.

I have never seen an open finger dislocation, but a friend of mine got an open toe dislocation when we were teaching our kids how to ride razor scooters in sandals. After seeing that I can pretty well imagine what the finger looks like. Nasty as they look/are though, the NCAA has refused hardships for open finger dislocations in the past on the grounds that they weren't incapacitating. I think that is why BYU is not going to pursue the medical hardship with Apo.



As far as the idea that BYU is posturing, I can't remember a time when BYU has misrepresented their intentions. When the BYU administrators posture, it's through silence, not misdirection.

snoscythe wrote:

snoscythe wrote:
My understanding of the Apo situation is that an open finger dislocation isn't considered "incapacitating" by the NCAA and only "incapacitating" injuries qualify for a medical hardship. The length of time you are out is also considered in deciding whether the injury is incapacitating.

Google "open finger dislocation" in Google images if you dare. It sure would be incapacitating for me :sick:



But as for Apo I do not see how he could get a redshirt or a medical redshirt based off of the rules as I understand them. It's too bad. This would have been the perfect situation for him to redshirt. Would have given him 4 full seasons instead of 3 1/2.

I have never seen an open finger dislocation, but a friend of mine got an open toe dislocation when we were teaching our kids how to ride razor scooters in sandals. After seeing that I can pretty well imagine what the finger looks like. Nasty as they look/are though, the NCAA has refused hardships for open finger dislocations in the past on the grounds that they weren't incapacitating. I think that is why BYU is not going to pursue the medical hardship with Apo.



As far as the idea that BYU is posturing, I can't remember a time when BYU has misrepresented their intentions. When the BYU administrators posture, it's through silence, not misdirection.

there's nothing misdirect about realizing that a kid cannot compete with the rest of the receivers and be on par with those playing while he heals from this injury.

The amount of time that he was actually on the field has some merit, and the fact that it was the 1st game also have some merit. If Ross doesn't play again this season, I assure you that when the time comes for Ross to leave BYU, that if he wants to stay for another year that BYU will attempt to make that argument. Or maybe Ross can just transfer to ole miss and get in a masters program for parks and rec.... ;)

I guess we'll really know if BYU believes there's a possibility if when he's healed that he's back on the field this year.