The Drops

Heaps throws right handed and Nelson throws left handed. Catching the football is about stopping the spin of the ball in your hands and you position your hands in different spots to catch a ball thrown left handed than you do a ball thrown right handed because it is spinning the opposite way.



I know that timing and velocity are different but with each quarterback but I think the different spin has a lot more to do with the drops.

Npliam wrote:
Heaps throws right handed and Nelson throws left handed. Catching the football is about stopping the spin of the ball in your hands and you position your hands in different spots to catch a ball thrown left handed than you do a ball thrown right handed because it is spinning the opposite way.



I know that timing and velocity are different but with each quarterback but I think the different spin has a lot more to do with the drops.

We've had a number of people who have been in this very situation weigh in, it is an adequate excuse in camp for drops, but you should have it figured out by the 2nd game of the season.

hawkwing wrote:

Heaps throws right handed and Nelson throws left handed. Catching the football is about stopping the spin of the ball in your hands and you position your hands in different spots to catch a ball thrown left handed than you do a ball thrown right handed because it is spinning the opposite way.



I know that timing and velocity are different but with each quarterback but I think the different spin has a lot more to do with the drops.

We've had a number of people who have been in this very situation weigh in, it is an adequate excuse in camp for drops, but you should have it figured out by the 2nd game of the season.

Catching the football needs to be a reaction. It won't be until they have one quarterback. It won't matter how many games they play unless the ball is spinning the same way every time they will continue to drop the ball.

Npiliam, Did you see the pass that bounced off Wilson's mellon? It was thrown practically straight at him. It went straight through his hands. Where in heavens name is he going to put his hands in different positions? Give us a break.

And why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw? Give me another break. Its got nothing to do with spin direction. I need a kitkat bar.

dmcougar wrote:
Npiliam, Did you see the pass that bounced off Wilson's mellon? It was thrown practically straight at him. It went straight through his hands. Where in heavens name is he going to put his hands in different positions? Give us a break.

And why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw? Give me another break. Its got nothing to do with spin direction. I need a kitkat bar.

Spin matters. Jerry Rice complained about Steve Young's passes when he first took over the starting position from Joe Montana. Is it the only reason for drops? No! Does it make a big difference to have the ball spinning the same way every time? Heck Ya.

Npliam wrote:

Npliam wrote:
Heaps throws right handed and Nelson throws left handed. Catching the football is about stopping the spin of the ball in your hands and you position your hands in different spots to catch a ball thrown left handed than you do a ball thrown right handed because it is spinning the opposite way.



I know that timing and velocity are different but with each quarterback but I think the different spin has a lot more to do with the drops.

We've had a number of people who have been in this very situation weigh in, it is an adequate excuse in camp for drops, but you should have it figured out by the 2nd game of the season.

Catching the football needs to be a reaction. It won't be until they have one quarterback. It won't matter how many games they play unless the ball is spinning the same way every time they will continue to drop the ball.

I have been through camp as a receiver where we had a QB race between a righty and a lefty. The first few days were awkward, but in the second week, we had all adjusted. Just because you learn to ride a unicycle doesn't mean you forget how to ride a bicycle. If anything, my experience was that the change-up made us better receivers overall as we weren't fazed as much by nuances in the travel and behavior of the ball.



I think the drops this season is a function of pressure. It's like the catcher who has a bad throw back to the mound and then starts overthinking it. Instead of just letting it come naturally, he overthinks what have always been instinctive motions and he begins to screw it all up. With as wide-open as the receiver positions have been this season, I think freshmen are too keyed up with the chance to make a splash, and the vets are too tense looking over their shoulders at the 6' plus guys coming in to try and take their slots.



I wonder if Vic So'oto is having second thoughts about having abandoned the TE position. Really could have used him this season.

dmcougar wrote:
why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw?

From where I was sitting, it just looked like Ashworth didn't realize the ball was coming his way until he had already decided to cut off his route. It looked like he was looking into the backfield, started to slow, and then suddenly saw the ball in his grill and just flapped his arms out. Inexcusable for a receiver to be looking in the backfield without first checking the flight paths to him.

snoscythe wrote:

why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw?

From where I was sitting, it just looked like Ashworth didn't realize the ball was coming his way until he had already decided to cut off his route. It looked like he was looking into the backfield, started to slow, and then suddenly saw the ball in his grill and just flapped his arms out. Inexcusable for a receiver to be looking in the backfield without first checking the flight paths to him.

I thought it was a sun issue, I thought he was looking back for the ball and got caught right in the sun.

hawkwing wrote:

dmcougar wrote:
why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw?

From where I was sitting, it just looked like Ashworth didn't realize the ball was coming his way until he had already decided to cut off his route. It looked like he was looking into the backfield, started to slow, and then suddenly saw the ball in his grill and just flapped his arms out. Inexcusable for a receiver to be looking in the backfield without first checking the flight paths to him.

I thought it was a sun issue, I thought he was looking back for the ball and got caught right in the sun.

Couldn't have been the sun. He was looking Southeast--the sun was in the southwest. I have the sunburn-on-one-side-of-the-face to prove it. ;) :P

snoscythe wrote:

snoscythe wrote:

why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw?

From where I was sitting, it just looked like Ashworth didn't realize the ball was coming his way until he had already decided to cut off his route. It looked like he was looking into the backfield, started to slow, and then suddenly saw the ball in his grill and just flapped his arms out. Inexcusable for a receiver to be looking in the backfield without first checking the flight paths to him.

I thought it was a sun issue, I thought he was looking back for the ball and got caught right in the sun.

Couldn't have been the sun. He was looking Southeast--the sun was in the southwest. I have the sunburn-on-one-side-of-the-face to prove it. ;) :P

You should switch to a blue paint with SPF :lol:

I think all the spin crap is BS at this point. Throw me a ball from a guy who shotputs, hikes, lefty, right, off his left or right foot, off his head, a throw from my grandma, Brett Favre, or Mark Rypen, and blast it all I'm going to make the catch everytime! And I'm not a "D1" football player...these guys are sorry but the excuses are even sorrier.

hawkwing wrote:

dmcougar wrote:
why did Ashworth slow down on Heaps deep throw?

From where I was sitting, it just looked like Ashworth didn't realize the ball was coming his way until he had already decided to cut off his route. It looked like he was looking into the backfield, started to slow, and then suddenly saw the ball in his grill and just flapped his arms out. Inexcusable for a receiver to be looking in the backfield without first checking the flight paths to him.

I thought it was a sun issue, I thought he was looking back for the ball and got caught right in the sun.

No guys! Its all that popcorn laced with butter.



Its a double edge sword:

1.) The ball just slips right through their hands.

2.) All that fattening butter slows them down when Heaps, heaps the ball down field.



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