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How Good is Anae?

by Wickchad · 9/27/2010

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Brayden Green
I didn't say that I would attribute it to the weight room itself. The players in the weight room, or in other words, the players themselves. Anae get way too much credit, all of the time.



So he should get credit, because he has had NFL talent at a mid-major school, and has used that talent to stomp pathetic schools along the way? For all the Anae hate, he gets a lot of undue love as well. Again, we are seeing him for who he truly is this year, an average playcaller that makes huge game-changing mistakes. On the flip side, he doesn't make game winning adjustments to balance that out. or in this case, he made a season-changing mistake falling in love with #13 and trying to change BYU's playbook to an option team. He is simply not good enough to run one offense completely, let alone two. And this situational stuff? If he can't know not to run a sweep with kariya in, how do we think he would do on whether or not to put a diff qb in, and when to do so.



He is bush league at worst, and good at best. I am just wondering when we stop paying for his mistakes.
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Cougarfan87
Mingjai wrote:
It's pretty tough to think that BYU has had so much NFL talent on offense and still couldn't do better than 11-2. My assessment of Anae is that his focus on execution is generally enough to win games when BYU has similar talent to the opposing team. When the opposing team is motivated or more talented (or both), we see BYU offenses get dominated.



This is different than the classic 80s-90s west coast offense that BYU ran, because that offense with the focus more on timing than execution, seemed better able able to make up for talent gaps. BYU would always get yards and almost always get points no matter who they were playing against. When BYU didn't score much, it was because of turnovers or injuries, which is why it felt like BYU was never out of a game--the offense was still getting yards and moving the chains.


Exactly. One of the reasons Lavell went with the West Coast Offense was precisely because he knew we didn't have the athletes to play "straight up" with other power football teams. In the West Coast offense, superior athletes are a luxury, not a necessity. Look no further than Ty Detmer. He didn't have the strongest arm and wasn't the biggest guy, but man could he carve up a defense in the West Coast offense.
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Wickchad
frdbtr wrote:
I don't agree that talent is developed in the weight room. Talent is developed by coaches at practice. Pitta didn't learn how to run precise routes in the weight room, he learned them from Robert Anae (who is the tight ends position coach, along with being the Ocoordinator). Coats didn't learn the blocking schemes from the weight room, he learned them from Anae who is his position coach. Harline, and George as well. the fact is, we have 4 tight ends that have dominated everyone over their time at BYU and one of the main reasons is Robert Anae. I agree that he is an average play caller but his average play calling has gotten BYU to 30+ points per game average since 2005. I have a feeling that once this current group of players comes into their own, we will be averaging that again.


Great, let Anae coach the TE's. Just stop letting him call the plays. Just because you change the person who is calling the plays doesn't mean you change the offense. Look at what Utah did mid-year last year by having Roderrick take over the playcalling of the current offense.
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BroncoBot
Wickchad84087 wrote:
I don't agree that talent is developed in the weight room. Talent is developed by coaches at practice. Pitta didn't learn how to run precise routes in the weight room, he learned them from Robert Anae (who is the tight ends position coach, along with being the Ocoordinator). Coats didn't learn the blocking schemes from the weight room, he learned them from Anae who is his position coach. Harline, and George as well. the fact is, we have 4 tight ends that have dominated everyone over their time at BYU and one of the main reasons is Robert Anae. I agree that he is an average play caller but his average play calling has gotten BYU to 30+ points per game average since 2005. I have a feeling that once this current group of players comes into their own, we will be averaging that again.


Great, let Anae coach the TE's. Just stop letting him call the plays. Just because you change the person who is calling the plays doesn't mean you change the offense. Look at what Utah did mid-year last year by having Roderrick take over the playcalling of the current offense.

Huge risk. Worked out for Utah, could work out for BYU (although BYU did beat utah in spite of Anae's weaknesses, eh). Could really throw timing and chemistry off for the team at this moment.
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Brayden Green
declocoug wrote:
Could really throw timing and chemistry off for the team at this moment.


We have timing and chemistry? Good to know...
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Mars
BlueIsBetter wrote:
He is bush league at worst, and good at best. I am just wondering when we stop paying for his mistakes.

Anae is not great, but he does seem to be better than 2002-2004 Crowton, and late-era Chow.



Unless we could get Leach or some other longshot, I think we downgrade if we lose him. I'm not an Anae fan by any means, but we're not talking coaching in a vaccuum here, I wouldn't promote Doman or go hire the OC from Northern Arizona or anything crazy like that just in order to get rid of him. He probably has "lifetime" status under Bronco.
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stuckinbig10country
I am a firm believer that Beck and Hall made Anae look better than he is. Those two would check out of plays 40% to 50% of the time to something that would actually work. One thing that I will give Anae credit for is allowing his QB's to be able to make changes. For a lot of other teams, even the audibles are sent in from the sidelines.



Is Anae a good coach? Sure. Is the offense that he built good? Yes, because the QB's had to check into a different play in the offense. Can he game plan? Yes, actually very well against people as stubborn as him who refuse to make adjustments. Is he a good play caller? No. Does he make adjustments? Let's just say I wouldn't want to ride in a car with him if there is a detour sign. Something tells me we would just keep going until we fell off where the bridge is out.



One thing I have noticed is that Jake didn't audible out of many plays. I guarantee Hall would have changed the play on the 4th and 4 play. I don't think Riley changed plays too much either this year. Maybe they don't get the same latitude that the previous 2 QB's did.
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Mingjai
stuckinbig10country wrote:
One thing I have noticed is that Jake didn't audible out of many plays. I guarantee Hall would have changed the play on the 4th and 4 play. I don't think Riley changed plays too much either this year. Maybe they don't get the same latitude that the previous 2 QB's did.


I think the difference is that Beck and Hall were more experienced in their first year under Anae than Heaps is, so they were allowed to check out of plays where Heaps has a much shorter leash.



Looking back, it's possible that the offensive result--pun intended--of the BC game in 2005 is a result of Beck not changing out of many plays. I think it took a game or two for Beck to (1) realize that success depended on audibles out of bad calls and (2) have the confidence to change to a play that worked. Max Hall, on the other hand, was changing plays from the get go given what I know about his personality, so BYU's offensive production didn't drop off during the transition to Hall.
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Lawboy
Harbaugh at Stanford shuffled his defensive coaches before this season. Just moved them around. The result is a team that ranked poorly last tear is now a top-10 defense this year.



I also remember coach Whit moving his OC from last year(Schramm) back to RB coach and promoted BYU grad who shall not be named as the OC, and the results have paid off for the U.



Sometimes coaching changes are not a bad thing. No one loses a job, just a change in duty. In fact, didn't Bronco take over more on special teams this year? How has that worked out again??? That's right--#1 in nation in kick coverage.
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Cougarbib
Plus horrible punting every other game.



Mixed bag on that. At least everyone quit calling for the field goal kicker's head after he missed 1 field goal in the opener.



Is it possible that Stanford returned a lot of experienced players this season?



BTW - I am not against rotating a coach now and again - but maybe not in a rebuilding year when so many other things are changing.



I am pleased, however, that no one has yet called for the head of the grad assistant coach who just got promoted before the season started.



Maybe we can't start blaming him for everything until we have memorized his name.



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Brayden Green
Cougarbib2 wrote:
Plus horrible punting every other game.



Mixed bag on that. At least everyone quit calling for the field goal kicker's head after he missed 1 field goal in the opener.



Is it possible that Stanford returned a lot of experienced players this season?



BTW - I am not against rotating a coach now and again - but maybe not in a rebuilding year when so many other things are changing.



I am pleased, however, that no one has yet called for the head of the grad assistant coach who just got promoted before the season started.



Maybe we can't start blaming him for everything until we have memorized his name.



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What are you even talking about? :skeptic:
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stuckinbig10country
A good point was just made. Coach Lamb was one heck of a coach. I'm sure his replacement will get up to speed, but coach Lamb has decades of division one football experience.



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Mingjai
Cougarbib2 wrote:
I am pleased, however, that no one has yet called for the head of the grad assistant coach who just got promoted before the season started.



Maybe we can't start blaming him for everything until we have memorized his name.


Hey, if it's not broke... right?
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CAFB_04-12
This is just emotional over-reaction. I remember John Beck being the target of much of the same criticism when he lost. He doesn't have "it." Same tired argument against Anae.



Only time will tell. Two or three losing seasons in a row will make a big difference. Can't even believe that people are talking about replacing a coach this early in the season.



Hold the line, fellas. Just hold.
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