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by Cougarpoke · 9/27/2010

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ProV1
Oh, and I really like Quezada. Running, catching, attitude. Heaps, Juice, Hoffman, Apo, et al, I like my next few years.
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Mars
kitic77 wrote:
Ah, Juice Quezada! The new flavor of the day! He's the answer to all of our woes! If only we could just play him more! He'd solve all our offensive problems!

I fear our coaches have the same ignorant view as kitic expresses above. "Is he more talented? Yes. But screw that!"



It's been obvious all year long that they have been under-utilizing good players for worse upperclassmen. Nelson V. Heaps. Ashworth V. Hoffman. Kariya V. Quezada is just case #12 against Bronco and company. Kariya sucks as a runner, too slow, too slow, too slow. Quezada is our 2nd best offensive player right now. I've been saying since the Washington game that he needs more touches, and four games later stupid Anae still doesn't get it.
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imuakahuku
I loved his run when he blew up that CB that tried to tackle him. I want to see more of him in the backfield. He looks like the transition from Unga to next gen. (just how Unga was from Brown). I can't wait to see more of him on the field. That said I love JJ too. He is doing a superb job and with Jake stretching things, he is really picking holes and getting nice gains.
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Cougs_Rule
And if I remember right, playing Unga as a freshman was a disaster. ;)

I trust Bronco for the most part. But given this season is a wash anyway, give the young guys a chance as well. I think its time to give up on the whole reloading fantasy.
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CougarPeasant
dmcougar wrote:
And if I remember right, playing Unga as a freshman was a disaster. ;)

I trust Bronco for the most part. But given this season is a wash anyway, give the young guys a chance as well. I think its time to give up on the whole reloading fantasy.


Unga was a RS freshman who waited a year before joining BYU. So he was essentially a Jr when he took over for Brown. Just FYI.



I wouldn't be surprised to see Q get a lot of playing time against USU on Friday. If he can block, he'll be used against SDSU and TCU for certain.
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snoscythe
dmcougar wrote:
And if I remember right, playing Unga as a freshman was a disaster. ;)

I trust Bronco for the most part. But given this season is a wash anyway, give the young guys a chance as well. I think its time to give up on the whole reloading fantasy.


Unga could lay a block in the backfield though. Quezada hasn't shown that yet, and that's why he doesn't get in much.



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mizzoucoug
snoscythe wrote:
And if I remember right, playing Unga as a freshman was a disaster. ;)

I trust Bronco for the most part. But given this season is a wash anyway, give the young guys a chance as well. I think its time to give up on the whole reloading fantasy.


Unga could lay a block in the backfield though. Quezada hasn't shown that yet, and that's why he doesn't get in much.



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Are you actually seeing this or just assuming it? I honestly haven't seen him in games much at all except when JJ voluntarily take a breather and usually he's taking a handoff or releasing.
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Sammich
mizzoucoug wrote:
dmcougar wrote:
And if I remember right, playing Unga as a freshman was a disaster. ;)

I trust Bronco for the most part. But given this season is a wash anyway, give the young guys a chance as well. I think its time to give up on the whole reloading fantasy.


Unga could lay a block in the backfield though. Quezada hasn't shown that yet, and that's why he doesn't get in much.



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Are you actually seeing this or just assuming it? I honestly haven't seen him in games much at all except when JJ voluntarily take a breather and usually he's taking a handoff or releasing.

He's missed a couple key blocks, including a drive-killing sack against FSU.
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MJCOUGAR
snoscythe wrote:
I don't think anyone ever doubted that Quezada could run effectively--he did it all camp. It's the rest of the role that he needs to pick up at this point, especially with Heaps in at QB. Until he learns how to effectively pick up blocks in pass protection Quezada and all his running talent is going to spend alot of time on the sidelines. Basically you have to decide which player you want to grow up on the field this season: Heaps or Quezada. If they are both on the field together too often at this point, Heaps is going off the field on a stretcher at some point, because right now Quezada is offering about as much pass protection as Napolean Dynamite.



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Well, Napoleon isn't a pass protection guy, he's a pass throwing guy so I don't understand your point. Didn't you know he is a heisman candidate for BSUnapoleon_dynamite-153425-1.jpgkellen_moore.jpg
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jonnylingo
snoscythe wrote:
And if I remember right, playing Unga as a freshman was a disaster. ;)

I trust Bronco for the most part. But given this season is a wash anyway, give the young guys a chance as well. I think its time to give up on the whole reloading fantasy.


Unga could lay a block in the backfield though. Quezada hasn't shown that yet, and that's why he doesn't get in much.



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I agree with this but it looked to me he was picking up the blitz pretty well last game. I know on one play he definitely did and he laid the guy out. did he have any misreads in this past game?



Trust me. Bronco LOVES this kid. he will play more and more each game. By the end of the year he will be getting a lot of carries. JJ is doing awesome. I would never give all of his reps right now. Luigi has proven that he can be effective. He is for sure the best offensive player we have right now. I would say way better than most expected. Kariya is a good pass blocker but below average runner. q appears to be an above average runner with some learning to do but with his attitude and work ethic i see him learning quick and getting some serious reps by years end.



I was fun to see him just lay into those who were attempting to tackle him. He was very aggressive. Fun to watch.
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SpiffCoug
Mars wrote:
Ah, Juice Quezada! The new flavor of the day! He's the answer to all of our woes! If only we could just play him more! He'd solve all our offensive problems!

I fear our coaches have the same ignorant view as kitic expresses above. "Is he more talented? Yes. But screw that!"



It's been obvious all year long that they have been under-utilizing good players for worse upperclassmen. Nelson V. Heaps. Ashworth V. Hoffman. Kariya V. Quezada is just case #12 against Bronco and company. Kariya sucks as a runner, too slow, too slow, too slow. Quezada is our 2nd best offensive player right now. I've been saying since the Washington game that he needs more touches, and four games later stupid Anae still doesn't get it.

What I was trying to point out is that there is a feeling on this board that our veterans are simply atrocious football players, while our uber-talented freshman are the answer to all of our woes. I believe we have highly talented freshman who will be very good by the time they leave BYU. I just don't think all of them are ready to contribute at an every-down level yet.
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Cougarbib
I am with u on this Kitic and showing remarkable restraint if you ask me, hopefully Hawk and Bacon agree re the restraint given my recent board warnings, so not to single anyone out, but the tone of vitriolic slamming of our players and coaches is very hard to ignore. Maybe we beat USU, the children all sing I told you so when Heaps and Juice and anyone that can breathe puts up big numbers on a beaten down, injury riddled, USU team playing 8 of their talented freshmen, and the tantrums, which currently cloud judgment and reason, subside.



It is frustrating to be wondering if BYU can cover a 5 point spread on the road, but even if our stupid coaches kick 2 field goals that should have been go for it's, speaking of Crowtonesque, I digress remembering him go for it every 4th down, we still cover.



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Mars
Sammich wrote:
He's missed a couple key blocks, including a drive-killing sack against FSU.

So has Kariya, but at least Juice can run the ball for more than a 2-yard average.
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