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Hit on Fuga a legal block...

by CaptainCoug · 9/28/2010

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snoscythe
From the NCAA Rulebook:


Chop Block

ARTICLE 3. A chop block is a high-low or low-high combination block by

any two players against an opponent (not the ball carrier) anywhere on the

field, with or without a delay between blocks; the “low” component is at the

opponent’s thigh or below (A.R. 2-3-3-III and IV, A.R. 9-1-2-XXVI).


A chop block requires two blockers--you can never have a chop block with one lone blocker, even though some commentators (and eHow :roll: ) might say otherwise. Your definition that started this whole thing was:


"Chop" referring to the high-low motion. Starting from high, ending low at the knees. Regardless of where the block was happening in relation to behind or in front, it doesn't take away from the fact that it was high/low and that is illegal.


There is nothing in the rules about this "high-low" motion you were talking about. Not on eHow or wikipedia either.



A "cut block" is not defined in the rule book--it's simply a legal block. However, I have never seen anyone define it as "starting at the height of the players knees, and proceeding to drive through them." It doesn't matter what level you start at--it's any block where you dive at the legs that isn't from behind (i.e clipping). However, this diving at the legs becomes illegal after a turnover to keep the defense from diving at linemen and quarterbacks and on kickoffs. I'd like to see a link to this concept of a cut-block being defined on where the blocker is starting from.



Yes, commentators mix up the terms, but that doesn't make it right--it just makes it look like all you know about football you learned from the MTN or eHow.
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SpiffCoug
I just think ANY block below the knees should be illegal.
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imuakahuku
The whole point is he went for the knee from behind. Being a lineman he knew exactly what the most likely result would be. Linemen lose seasons all the time when people roll on their legs from behind. He knew it but he did it anyways. It was dirty and no matter of semantics nor description will change that. I saw it with my eyes and don't need some "expert" to tell me it was a good play.
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Brayden Green
snoscythe wrote:
From the NCAA Rulebook:


Chop Block

ARTICLE 3. A chop block is a high-low or low-high combination block by

any two players against an opponent (not the ball carrier) anywhere on the

field, with or without a delay between blocks; the “low” component is at the

opponent’s thigh or below (A.R. 2-3-3-III and IV, A.R. 9-1-2-XXVI).


A chop block requires two blockers--you can never have a chop block with one lone blocker, even though some commentators (and eHow :roll: ) might say otherwise. Your definition that started this whole thing was:


"Chop" referring to the high-low motion. Starting from high, ending low at the knees. Regardless of where the block was happening in relation to behind or in front, it doesn't take away from the fact that it was high/low and that is illegal.


There is nothing in the rules about this "high-low" motion you were talking about. Not on eHow or wikipedia either.



A "cut block" is not defined in the rule book--it's simply a legal block. However, I have never seen anyone define it as "starting at the height of the players knees, and proceeding to drive through them." It doesn't matter what level you start at--it's any block where you dive at the legs that isn't from behind (i.e clipping). However, this diving at the legs becomes illegal after a turnover to keep the defense from diving at linemen and quarterbacks and on kickoffs. I'd like to see a link to this concept of a cut-block being defined on where the blocker is starting from.



Yes, commentators mix up the terms, but that doesn't make it right--it just makes it look like all you know about football you learned from the MTN or eHow.


look, I was just taught the correct way to execute one and defend against one. I just know that if you go high low within one step you will usually get flagged for an illegal block below the knees, and if you start low and finish low you won't. So take that for what you will. I don't know of anywhere that anything is clearly defined anywhere. i am just going off my playing experience.



I for one agree with Kitic, any hitting below the knee intentionally should be illegal. I have taken one to many cuts to the knees in my days. If that hampers teams like Air Force, then so be it.
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Schmoe
A non-chop/non-cut block is one under which you do not perform the following: Never not unblocking below what is considered the unwaist or not never from the anterior-posterior.



Are we clear!?
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Brayden Green
snoscythe wrote:



Yes, commentators mix up the terms, but that doesn't make it right--it just makes it look like all you know about football you learned from the MTN or eHow.


That's a low blow, even by your standards... welcome back to the forum. Can't say I missed ya. I'm sure you learned all about this standing on the outside of the field, pointing at the ref before the play starts ;)
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jonnylingo
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Schmoe
BlueIsBetter wrote:



That's a low blow...



:lol: Oh man, you're killing me! :lol:
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