Options Sans Davies

per joe lunardi on twitter...



"P.S.: The Committee would not drop BYU because of the Davies suspension unless/until the Cougars play worse without him. It is not assumed."



(I hope we don't play worse...)

BYULV wrote:
How's Chris Collinsworth's knee?



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Hmmm... I was wondering the same thing. Anyone in good with Max the Miracle Worker?



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The real problem is on offense, Davies is a great low post scorer. Like really good, so teams leave him one on one down there and he kills them, then they start doubling, and just like that emery, fredette, and rogers are being left wide open. This is really going to hurt our offense.

To the Anderson bashers - yes, he can be an offensive liability, but don't you remember the key role he played in the first win against SDSU? He can be a real presence inside. If he can play with a little more confidence, he could be a real help.

Anderson is a wannabe Ostertag. Yes he can be a presence. But no, he is not near consistent enough to be relied upon from game to game. Coaches need to know what they can get from a guy each game, and with Anderson, no one ever really knows. So when he does contribute, it is a bonus surprise.



Davies out just cut the tourney run short by at least 2 games. Where I thought we had a shot a Elite 8 or even Final 4 before, now I think Sweet 16 is the best that can be done. Good, but still a disappointment.

IowaCougar wrote:
To the Anderson bashers - yes, he can be an offensive liability, but don't you remember the key role he played in the first win against SDSU? He can be a real presence inside. If he can play with a little more confidence, he could be a real help.

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AMEN!!!! Thats what ive been trying to say!!! I think Rose pushes him to become the inside gome for byu, and he takes it to heart. All we need is for him and hartsock to be good enough for the opponent to respect our inside game, not necessarily focus on it, but just respect it enough to know we can score from there. I REALLY hope anderson and hartsock take this to heart and do this for the team.

If we play zone anderson can be functional on D, in man he is just wayyyyyyy to slow. So we will have to go zone for the entire rest of the season. On offense he is less than a non factor, he cannot catch the ball, let alone finish an open layup. Thats where he will really be exposed, when Jimmer drops him a nice pass in the lane and he bobbles it out of bounds time and time again.

Good point, Anderson is pretty decent in a zone patrolling the middle. We could see even more zone than we have, and this would help protect Noah from foul trouble as well.

Noah is REALLY going to have to take 5 steps forward. He's going to have to become a crafty scorer down low and find those moves he had once upon a time in OK. Draw the double team then pass out of it. KC and Abouo are going to have to prove they can score inside more as well.

This is going to be all aobut players creating shots or drawing defenders to keep them from creating those shots and kicking to an open player who hoepfully will not have gon ecold.



Jimmer can do it and will need to be driving the lane all night. Hopefully he will get a few calls. WHen Anderson is in, he will be ignored which allows an easy double team. that is where Abuo, Rogers, and KC come in. they have at times shown the ability to slash and get to the hoop but have been inconsistent about finishing. they ned ot finish better.



Quit worrying about the Dance. We play NM tonight and probably did not get a chance to practice with the actual players and scheme Rose stayed up all night drawing up last night. Unless, Rose knew about Davies Monday and drew things up Monday night an dpracticed that way yesterday.



The regular season conference title could be locked up tonight against the only team in the conference that beat us.



Go Cougs

I don't know, yes it's depressing to lose a player like Davies, but "Davies was just 2 of 6 from the field with 6 boards and 4 points in a foul-plagued, 27-minute showing at SDSU." This hardly sounds like a guy BYU cannot do without. But this definitely hurts our depth in the post, but have little concern that BYU cannot win without Davies, and I'm betting BYU takes NM apart tonight--then all the talk about the sky is falling and the end of the world will be gone.



Indeed, there could be a game down the road, in the MWC tournament, or in the NCAAs where the absence of Davies costs BYU the game, but it certainly won't be every game, and I don't believe it's going to be this week.



The other four starters do most of the scoring and playmaking anyway. If JImmer makes one more basket and Hartsock makes one more basket, and Hartsock, Obouo and Anderson get two more rebounds apiece, they have compensated for Davis' absence.



The sun will come up again tomorrow.

bball wrote:
I don't know, yes it's depressing to lose a player like Davies, but "Davies was just 2 of 6 from the field with 6 boards and 4 points in a foul-plagued, 27-minute showing at SDSU." This hardly sounds like a guy BYU cannot do without. But this definitely hurts our depth in the post, but have little concern that BYU cannot win without Davies, and I'm betting BYU takes NM apart tonight--then all the talk about the sky is falling and the end of the world will be gone.



Indeed, there could be a game down the road, in the MWC tournament, or in the NCAAs where the absence of Davies costs BYU the game, but it certainly won't be every game, and I don't believe it's going to be this week.



The other four starters do most of the scoring and playmaking anyway. If JImmer makes one more basket and Hartsock makes one more basket, and Hartsock, Obouo and Anderson get two more rebounds apiece, they have compensated for Davis' absence.



The sun will come up again tomorrow.

Statistically, he may not have had much of a role in the SDSU game. But his first bucket really set the tone for the entire game: we're coming at you HARD, and we're going to answer EVERYTHING. It was pretty epic, missed foul shot notwithstanding. On the defensive side, he was a huge factor in all the missed opportunities, whether he was credited for a block or a rebound or not. 6'9" dudes that can run and jump like Davies do not grow on trees. He will be missed. I hope our game plan can compensate, via a smaller lineup with a faster tempo or with our remaining bigs stepping way up. Either way, it's a taller task than Saturday's box score would indicate.

Yep, Davies will be missed and I don't see anyone filling in good enough for a deep tourney run. We are no longer a top 10 team much less a top 20 team.



The stat that stands out to me from the NM game...BYU outrebounded 42-15...

Ya. good call folks who thought we wouldnt miss Brandon. NOt sure we win with him tonight. But when the team is "dieing by the 3", you gotta go inside. Oh, wait -ZERO INSIDE GAME.

There are none...



We have more options sans Jimmer than sans Davies w CC out.



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dmcougar wrote:
Ya. good call folks who thought we wouldnt miss Brandon. NOt sure we win with him tonight. But when the team is "dieing by the 3", you gotta go inside. Oh, wait -ZERO INSIDE GAME.

Davies was a threat down low. Teams knew it. They had to plan for it and they couldn't ignore him because he could score. Now...



Opponents can stack the perimeter on defense. They can give up a forward on Jimmer.

bball wrote:
I don't know, yes it's depressing to lose a player like Davies, but "Davies was just 2 of 6 from the field with 6 boards and 4 points in a foul-plagued, 27-minute showing at SDSU." This hardly sounds like a guy BYU cannot do without. But this definitely hurts our depth in the post, but have little concern that BYU cannot win without Davies, and I'm betting BYU takes NM apart tonight--then all the talk about the sky is falling and the end of the world will be gone.



Indeed, there could be a game down the road, in the MWC tournament, or in the NCAAs where the absence of Davies costs BYU the game, but it certainly won't be every game, and I don't believe it's going to be this week.



The other four starters do most of the scoring and playmaking anyway. If JImmer makes one more basket and Hartsock makes one more basket, and Hartsock, Obouo and Anderson get two more rebounds apiece, they have compensated for Davis' absence.



The sun will come up again tomorrow.

Jimmer scored 43 in that game, and we won despite being massively out rebounded, almost two to one, because SDSU couldn't hit a shot and we were shooting great.



That game was an anomaly. This is what we look like without Davies and an inside presence. What a shame.