lions vs cougars

Once again this game proved that Noah Hartsock is our best player this year. He should be touching the ball EVERY offensive set.

Qman wrote:
Interesting that Rose went to Winder over Zylstra against the press down the stretch. Winder made a couple of mistakes. He played good D and made two big free throws, so I think it was a net win.



Cusick was exposed again as not having enough quickness to bring the ball up against a quick guard.

I don't think that any of BYU's guards do very well against quick defenses.

hawkwing wrote:
Once again this game proved that Noah Hartsock is our best player this year. He should be touching the ball EVERY offensive set.

The lack of touches in the first half for Hartsock was CRIMINAL.

how many of Carlinos 7- 3 point attempts were actually 2 steps back from the line? Dude. Wait till your a senior before attempting jimmer range.



We lose this game without Cusicks 3 point shooting or Hartsock's 80% FG%

This team plays better with Cusick in the game unless Carlno is hitting shots. Carlino is still turning the ball over and plain chucking it from deep 3, out of rhythm.

NOah Hartsock gets the ball more--AS HE SHOULD-- when Cusick is playing distributor and an inside out game. Carlino has a way to go to learn this style. And thats why he sat.

Cusick deserves credit for pulling BYU out of their stall offense. Cusick and NOah inside out game was great. true, Cusick does not do well with fast guards.

Glad the COugs pulled it out, but the Zags poster is right. This Conf has strong guard play.

Looked like a lot of empty bench seats in what looked to be a High School gym. Not sure how Jabari or anyone top level could get excited about playing in these venues! I think this conference marginalizes BYU's future in basketball much more than independence does in football! Just my opinion!



Go Cougs!



L Hatton

Louisville, KY

Deju vu comes through!

KYCoug wrote:
Looked like a lot of empty bench seats in what looked to be a High School gym. Not sure how Jabari or anyone top level could get excited about playing in these venues! I think this conference marginalizes BYU's future in basketball much more than independence does in football! Just my opinion!



Go Cougs!



L Hatton

Louisville, KY

The last article I read on Jabari makes me believe he marches to a different drum. He doesn't strike me as the type that is looking for fame and playing in front of big crowds. He's got his head on straight and knows that basketball is not first priority.

EM_Puma wrote:
Deju vu comes through!

Thanks for the spoiler. :angry:

dmcougar wrote:
This team plays better with Cusick in the game unless Carlno is hitting shots. Carlino is still turning the ball over and plain chucking it from deep 3, out of rhythm.

NOah Hartsock gets the ball more--AS HE SHOULD-- when Cusick is playing distributor and an inside out game. Carlino has a way to go to learn this style. And thats why he sat.

Cusick deserves credit for pulling BYU out of their stall offense. Cusick and NOah inside out game was great. true, Cusick does not do well with fast guards.

Glad the COugs pulled it out, but the Zags poster is right. This Conf has strong guard play.

I'll take Carlino's 7 assists/1 turnover to Cusick's 0 assists/2 turnovers every night of the week.



Carlino needs to improve his shot selection, but Cusick isn't on the same level of talent.



In the 2nd half Carlino took the instructions to hard and got the ball to Hartsock.

scott715 wrote:

drewjay LMU students chanting "sinner, sinner" as Brandon Davies lines up for free throws.

Looks like some SDSU fans are at the game.

I saw some girls hoding a sign saying "your mother is a cougar." I had a good chuckle.

KYCoug wrote:
Looked like a lot of empty bench seats in what looked to be a High School gym. Not sure how Jabari or anyone top level could get excited about playing in these venues! I think this conference marginalizes BYU's future in basketball much more than independence does in football! Just my opinion!



Go Cougs!



L Hatton

Louisville, KY

But... had he wanted to ,he would have been able to watch the game. How many other teams will be on the TV nationwide, home and away as much as BYU this year ?

BTW it was nice to see all of our weaknesses get exposed, and we still won the game

Qman wrote:

This team plays better with Cusick in the game unless Carlno is hitting shots. Carlino is still turning the ball over and plain chucking it from deep 3, out of rhythm.

NOah Hartsock gets the ball more--AS HE SHOULD-- when Cusick is playing distributor and an inside out game. Carlino has a way to go to learn this style. And thats why he sat.

Cusick deserves credit for pulling BYU out of their stall offense. Cusick and NOah inside out game was great. true, Cusick does not do well with fast guards.

Glad the COugs pulled it out, but the Zags poster is right. This Conf has strong guard play.

I'll take Carlino's 7 assists/1 turnover to Cusick's 0 assists/2 turnovers every night of the week.



Carlino needs to improve his shot selection, but Cusick isn't on the same level of talent.



In the 2nd half Carlino took the instructions to hard and got the ball to Hartsock.

Carlino does two things and his game will increase immediately:



1) Don't dribble into traffic on a fast break



2) Limit shots to spot up jumpers, preferably no further than 1 foot behind the 3 point line



He has the potential and athleticism, but the fundamentals just aren't there. Give him time.

I'm not sure where are these complaints about turnovers from Carlino are coming from. He had his cleanest game of the year. I saw, maybe, one. I also saw him dish 7 0r 8 assists, and if Abuou could hit a wide open shot, it would have been more like 12.



I also saw him pushing the ball up the court and creating offense, when nobody else could.



We might even lose that game if Carlino doesn't come in to break the press.



They aren't even in the same league. Carlino has his worst shooting night of the year, and Cusick has his best shooting night of the year, and Carlino STILL has the better overall game.

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The last article I read on Jabari makes me believe he marches to a different drum. He doesn't strike me as the type that is looking for fame and playing in front of big crowds. He's got his head on straight and knows that basketball is not first priority.[/quote]



Perhaps, I know from local news he's had the UK, IU, UL, OS, NC head coaches in the stands at his games just to watch his games, some even at the same time. What kind of attention has Rose or any other coach from the Y given? I think it would be great if he did come to the Y. I just don't see the Y even in the recruiting game for him or even listed as one of his top choices.

I don't know what has happened to our ability this season to pass the ball in underneath. I haven't really seen so much struggle from any of our competitors and actually they look like they know what they are doing. Same goes for the full court press. We act like we never practice those scenarios or the scout team doesn't know how to be the scout team in those instances and then when we get the real thing, BYU is baffled. Very frustrating to watch.

BlueIsBetter wrote:
I'm not sure where are these complaints about turnovers from Carlino are coming from. He had his cleanest game of the year. I saw, maybe, one. I also saw him dish 7 0r 8 assists, and if Abuou could hit a wide open shot, it would have been more like 12.



I also saw him pushing the ball up the court and creating offense, when nobody else could.



We might even lose that game if Carlino doesn't come in to break the press.



They aren't even in the same league. Carlino has his worst shooting night of the year, and Cusick has his best shooting night of the year, and Carlino STILL has the better overall game.

True. And this shouldn't and won't turn into a Carlino v Cusick controversy. Carlino is a better player long term. BUt, he also brings a frenetic pace, that while is nice because it pushes the pace, like Riley (sorry guys) ) there is an upside and a clear downside when he is playing at that frenetic pace.

A quick, brick 3 may as well be a turnover. It is a live and die by the 3 mentality. But when little patience is applied, ala Cusick and Noah last night, an iside out approach can work.

Rose must be taking this approach. Why else did he sit so much? It was foul trouble the game previous as he had 3 and sat the start of the 2nd half.

Im not ripping on him, but run and gun doesn't always blend with a start down low approach--which is our strength this year. We are not a good enough outside shooting team this year. Some games they'll be hot, but the majority they have not.

Carlino will get it all together--Rose will make sure of that. Meantime, when we need stability and to slow things down, like last night, Cusick is very serviceable.

Half court offense is never our strength. Our strength is getting up and down the court.



The only legitimate halfcourt threat we have is Noah. Davies can be a threat, but most times isn't. Even with his superior size and quickness.



If you look at the game even last night, there is a stark difference between the offense and tempo of the two point guards. One wants the ball in his hands to make plays, either passing or scoring, and the other wants the ball out of his hands as quickly as possible - so as to not have an effect on the game.

p.s. Besides Carlino's shots, which only two or three were bad, BYU took more brick threes under Cusick, had more turnovers under Cusick, etc. Our half court offense (which looked maybe the best it has looked all year, especially with King Noah hitting everything with 30 feet of the basket) still is only average.



BYU scores getting up and down the court. They don't do that under Cusick.