Qualities of a great Coach

SpiffCoug wrote:
You can pretty much start with Utah's 27-0 loss to UNLV and their loss at home to Colorado in 2011.



Bronco doesn't have a loss as poor as either of those.

Disagree. BYU got blown out vs Utah in 2011. And to a horrible team in 2012.

Cougs_Rule wrote:

You can pretty much start with Utah's 27-0 loss to UNLV and their loss at home to Colorado in 2011.



Bronco doesn't have a loss as poor as either of those.

Disagree. BYU got blown out vs Utah in 2011. And to a horrible team in 2012.

Utah won 7 games in 2011. Utah wasn't horrible. They weren't good. They still won five games.



Horrible is winning very few games in a year. Like UNLV who won 2 games in 2007 when they shut out the Utes.



Or like Colorado who won 3 games in 2011 when they beat Utah.



Bronco has lost to FOUR teams that had a losing record. That's it. Four. Bronco has lost to nearly as many teams that went undefeated (3) as teams that had a losing record.

ABYUFAN wrote:

cornhole153 wrote:

A coach that routinely loses games he should easily win is far worse than a coach that that beats every team he should beat and only beats teams that are considered better 33% of the time.



Hence Bronco >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kyle

I'm haven't compare KW wins versus more talent teams to his losses against less talent teams. I'll look it up, should be interesting to see how he and BM compare. I will give you that he losses too many bad games. Although, he has also put together and undefeated season, something that BM hasn't even really got off the ground. Interesting though.



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So KW has 24 wins against more talent teams and just 11 loses to less talented teams. This was a quick look (and guesses in some cases re recruiting rankings), so there are probably some errors.



Wins, 24—AZ (2), BYU (5), GT (2), TCU (2), UCLA (2), Michigan, Alabama, Cal (2), Pitt (2), Iowa St, Oregon St., Washington St., Colorado, Washington



Loses, 11—Co. St., SDSU, NM (2), Boise, WY, AF, UNLV, Boise St., Utah St.



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I'm not sure I understand what you are saying... Boise - are they different than Boise State? And you and the Ute fans are the only 12,001 people in the world that consider BSU to be "Less tallented" than Utah



Also are you sayig that Bronco has better recruits than KW? If so, then doesn't that support the position that he's a better college football coach? Again, recruiting is as important as any other single aspect of college coaching is it not?

Based on scout.com ranking I believe Boise St. Is less talented, though I could be wrong as I eyeballed much of this. If Utah is less talented than Boise St. As you suggest, then KW's ratio is even better.



BYU recruits better than Utah because of many things--church school, academics, facilities, tradition, fan support etc. so I don't think you can credit Bronco for all of that.



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Too subtle I guess. Wait a little longer for it.

And I thought the thread was about qualitites of good coaches?