Holy Crap ... Really Max Hall?

Is this a sports forum or a a pre-sunday school chat? I kinda come here to talk football and get my religious fill elsewhere.



I know some cross referencing is unavoidable but... I just don't see how the WWJD thing works with football. I think He might think it to be a waste of time.

Ute fans can cry and moan about this all they want. We all know that the wicked take the truth to be hard.



As to the ridiculous notion that ute fans don't smuggle in booze or throw drinks, I've seen alcohol at EVERY game I've attended at Rice-Eccles and I PERSONALLY saw half-full water bottles thrown at BYU fans and players TODAY and drinks thrown at and poured onto Cougar fans and players.



There are some wonderful ute fans, but the beer stories and the "John Beck gave my son herpes" signs speak for themselves. Losers. It's nice to have a SCOREBOARD to point to in order to back up Max's and our point.

snoscythe wrote:
I personally take issue with the entire premise of this thread. It is founded upon the presumption that crap can be holy. I have yet to be convinced of the divinity of crap, so until I am convinced otherwise, I refuse to participate in a holy crap thread.

The way I see it, if there's eating in heaven then there'll be holy crap.

So you get clemency just because you can throw a football?

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No need for clemency; we're in no position to dole out punishment to Max. He's entitled to his opinion; and it's an opinion that many of us share. This is football, not relief society.



Now go iron your skirt for church tommorrow.

Matty-B wrote:
I just don't see how the WWJD thing works with football. I think He might think it to be a waste of time.

Unless BYU is playing ;) This is, after all, HIS school! :P

ABYUFAN wrote:

And BTW, since I can't see any church authority making a similar public statement, I don't think Max's comments were ok.

That's kind of a weird standard to live by.. what level of Authority is it safe to go by? 70? Cause I'm sure there are many things George P. Lee has said that I'd have a problem with...

Just b/c there have been a few fallen church authorities, I don't you should dismiss the rest of them as examples.

craigoscarson wrote:

So you get clemency just because you can throw a football?

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No need for clemency; we're in no position to dole out punishment to Max. He's entitled to his opinion; and it's an opinion that many of us share. This is football, not relief society.

Isn't he a standard bearer for our church?

BYUTIME wrote:

BYUTIME wrote:
And BTW, since I can't see any church authority making a similar public statement, I don't think Max's comments were ok.

That's kind of a weird standard to live by.. what level of Authority is it safe to go by? 70? Cause I'm sure there are many things George P. Lee has said that I'd have a problem with...

Just b/c there have been a few fallen church authorities, I don't you should dismiss the rest of them as examples.

Nope, what I'm saying is that you need to decide right and wrong for yourself. You cannot live on borrowed light. Something will be right or wrong of its own accord, not because someone or a group of someones would or wouldn't say it.

BYUTIME wrote:

So you get clemency just because you can throw a football?

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No need for clemency; we're in no position to dole out punishment to Max. He's entitled to his opinion; and it's an opinion that many of us share. This is football, not relief society.

Isn't he a standard bearer for our church?

No



he's most certainly not. He's a very talented football player who currently plays for the right team.

c'mon guys, getting into all this religious crap (and I call it crap, because that's what is it. There is no spiritual value to discussions like this) is part of what destroyed the other forum that shall not be named. Can we please try and avoid that here?

ABYUFAN wrote:

craigoscarson wrote:

So you get clemency just because you can throw a football?

[/i][/b]



No need for clemency; we're in no position to dole out punishment to Max. He's entitled to his opinion; and it's an opinion that many of us share. This is football, not relief society.

Isn't he a standard bearer for our church?

No



he's most certainly not. He's a very talented football player who currently plays for the right team.

You can disagree with Coach Mendenhall (and the obvious) to justify Max's behavior, But I won't.

Seriously guys, a college football player says that he very much dislikes his rival school and everyone is surprised by that? Really? I mean, if I went to Harvard and the majority of Yale fans acted like total assholes to my family, I'd say the same thing. But then, oh no, didn't one or two of the general authorities go to Yale? I must be wicked blah, blah, blah. Dumbass ute fans will always find something to dig on BYU for, especially after they lose.

BYUTIME wrote:

BYUTIME wrote:

So you get clemency just because you can throw a football?

[/i][/b]



No need for clemency; we're in no position to dole out punishment to Max. He's entitled to his opinion; and it's an opinion that many of us share. This is football, not relief society.

Isn't he a standard bearer for our church?

No



he's most certainly not. He's a very talented football player who currently plays for the right team.

You can disagree with Coach Mendenhall (and the obvious) to justify Max's behavior, But I won't.

I'm not trying to "justify" his behavior. I simply don't think it's wrong. If you feel comfortable judging people because they have a "wrong" opinion,then that's your prerogative.

Max was out of line. I expect Bronco to talk to him and for him to apologize for his comments. His emotions got the best of him. So he had a bad game, you don't let your frustrations out like that.

ABYUFAN wrote:

ABYUFAN wrote:

craigoscarson wrote:

So you get clemency just because you can throw a football?

[/i][/b]



No need for clemency; we're in no position to dole out punishment to Max. He's entitled to his opinion; and it's an opinion that many of us share. This is football, not relief society.

Isn't he a standard bearer for our church?

No



he's most certainly not. He's a very talented football player who currently plays for the right team.

You can disagree with Coach Mendenhall (and the obvious) to justify Max's behavior, But I won't.

I'm not trying to "justify" his behavior. I simply don't think it's wrong. If you feel comfortable judging people because they have a "wrong" opinion,then that's your prerogative.

Once you've justified something you don't think it's wrong.



I'm ok with judging Max's comments. Of course, since you agree with Max, that means you've judged every person affiliated with the entire University of Utah and deemed them all classless.

BYUTIME wrote:
[ Of course, since you agree with Max, that means you've judged every person affiliated with the entire University of Utah and deemed them all classless.

Actually it only means that I understand the word "hyperbole" You ought to look it up...

Not that proof that the other side shares the same sentiments is justification, but:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kecBRs38DWU



0:32-0:38.

ABYUFAN wrote:

[ Of course, since you agree with Max, that means you've judged every person affiliated with the entire University of Utah and deemed them all classless.

Actually it only means that I understand the word "hyperbole" You ought to look it up...

Actually you (and Max), at a minimum, judged bunch of folks and applied a stereotype to the rest of them.

BYUTIME wrote:

BYUTIME wrote:
[ Of course, since you agree with Max, that means you've judged every person affiliated with the entire University of Utah and deemed them all classless.

Actually it only means that I understand the word "hyperbole" You ought to look it up...

Actually you (and Max), at a minimum, judged bunch of folks and applied a stereotype to the rest of them.

You guys disagree, cry about it, hug it out, and knock it off.