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BYU vs St. Mary's game thread

by mizzoucoug · 2/2/2014

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Schmoe
BroncoBot wrote:
I don't think it was defense. SMC just could not hit the broad side of any large structure last night from 3.


I think we caught them in a slump, as well. Top-3 three-point shooters and they went 4-31(?) the last two games. We need a better answer for Waldo next time around, because their outside guys will be shooting better.
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Cougarbib
Schmoe wrote:
I don't think it was defense. SMC just could not hit the broad side of any large structure last night from 3.


I think we caught them in a slump, as well. Top-3 three-point shooters and they went 4-31(?) the last two games. We need a better answer for Waldo next time around, because their outside guys will be shooting better.




They will be at home next time - shooting with confidence - favored by 5 points. BYU will be on the road, a little off on their shooting.



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BroncoBot
AGree with both schmoe and bib. SMC is in a big time slump and on the road, they'll be tough to beat at home, and waldoh will be just as tough, with much better shooting percentage from the perimeter. If bib is right and SMC had to adjust and that's why they were missing shots, that's a good sign, but I don't think it had much of an effect. I saw a lot of wide open shots just not go in.
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BoiseBYU
Cougarbib wrote:
BoiseBYU wrote:
BoiseBYU wrote:
FTs helped, but what really won the game was a huge second half of rebound dominance.

BoiseBYU, let me help you understand. Yes, Those rebounds helped. But the FTs were huge, especially for this "struggling to hit FT consistently team". 9 turnovers were also nice, but 4 in the first 2 minutes were bad. FG% improved as the game went on, really helpful when you want to win a game. Defense stepped up and got some solid stops in the second half, also instrumental.



If BYU wants to have any shot at winning the WCC or the conference tournament, or getting invited to the dance, they can't be a one dimensional team (offense first). All those little details (fts, boards, turnovers, defense, FG%) have to be there to be a dominant team. BYU is showing some positive trends lately though. Now if we could just get a more consistent interior scoring attack.



Of course, you already knew this. 8)


I know very little. I do know that every WCC loss we got out rebounded. In the first 10 minutes SM about doubled up on us rebound wise. During the second half blitz we out rebounded them 17-5 and ended up winning the rebound battle.


We usually win the rebound battle. Portland out rebounded BYU by a couple.



I do not remember on LMU and Pepperdine. BYU played terribly all around in those 2 games.


I looked it up. We out rebounded both LMU and Pepperdine slightly. Portland out rebounded us by 3.



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Thanks. I stand corrected.
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Cougarbib
BroncoBot wrote:
AGree with both schmoe and bib. SMC is in a big time slump and on the road, they'll be tough to beat at home, and waldoh will be just as tough, with much better shooting percentage from the perimeter. If bib is right and SMC had to adjust and that's why they were missing shots, that's a good sign, but I don't think it had much of an effect. I saw a lot of wide open shots just not go in.




In the beginning we were allowing their guards uncontested layups right up the middle of the lane and also allowing Waldo to roll far left off the shoulder of the defender for a lay in or baby hook. We took those away and forced them to take more outside shots.



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Cougarbib
Cougarbib wrote:
Cougarbib wrote:
Get Carlino in the game. Nobody out there is doing anything but pass to Haws and watch him try to score 50 again. That is not an offense.


Really. Carlino came in and SMC stretched the lead. Collinsworth carried BYU early. Carlino has another 33% night when the team shoots nearly 50% and you want more Carlino.



You could make an argument for more Winder. But, we got plenty of Carlino again tonight.



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We must have watched different games. Carlino was in the game when BYU finally started making their run in the first half.




Both. He came in. The SMC lead continued to stretch. Then BYU mounted the comeback. Carlino shot 33% FG and 33% 3.



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I went back and watched the 1st half again. DVR.



With 13:55 remaining and BYU trailing by 6 at 14-8 Carlino came off the bench.



With 9:45 remaining and Carlino still in, BYU trailed 14 at 26-12.



With 9:20 remaining Carlino headed back to the bench with BYU trailing by 12 at 26-14



Then the comeback started - ignited by an "and 1" layup followed by a takeaway all by Collinsworth. Barkley added energy offset by playing out of control and taking bad shots. Winder was rock solid. Haws heated up.



At 4:55 remaining and with BYU red hot (scored about 6 points with Carlino kneeling at the scoring table to come back in), Carlino came off the bench with BYU still trailing by 6 at 30-24.



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