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Marscougarsunited wrote:
Of course TCU is better than Boise State
You're an idiot.
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How Badly Will TCU Beat Boise State?
by Mars · 1/2/2010
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You're an idiot.
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LawboyI think Mars needs to change his name to Bronco State.
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cougarsunitedMars wrote:Of course TCU is better than Boise State
You're an idiot.
Well, I'd be offended, too if someone insulted my team. No worries, don't let this get you down, next year your Broncos are going to walk all over their New Mexico State caliber opponents again and basically get to prepare the entire year for ONE big game...
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snoscytheFWIW, I'm going to back Mars here. What's wrong with being a BSU fan? Mars has made no bones in the past about being a Broncos fan, but that doesn't make him any less a Cougar fan, or any less a contributor to the board.
Granted that means he will defend BSU to the death, but who cares? Accept it and move on. There is nothing requiring rational thought on this board--the nature of a fan-site precludes such a requirement. What we ask for is civility and discourse on the topic at hand. If you are going to go after Mars' posts, go after the substance of his argument, or agree to disagree if you run out of ammo and you are still at odds. Just don't make it personal.
BTW, that goes for Mars too--stick to substance, or let it go.
Granted that means he will defend BSU to the death, but who cares? Accept it and move on. There is nothing requiring rational thought on this board--the nature of a fan-site precludes such a requirement. What we ask for is civility and discourse on the topic at hand. If you are going to go after Mars' posts, go after the substance of his argument, or agree to disagree if you run out of ammo and you are still at odds. Just don't make it personal.
BTW, that goes for Mars too--stick to substance, or let it go.
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byutxI'm back after 3 days without a freaking computer. Seriously, I hate Dell!
Where to begin?
TCU ran the ball with RB's 10 times. WTH?
They passed on 1st and 10 way too much.
BSU had only one good drive all night and that was because TCU blew it on the fake punt. Seriously, how did GP not know they were planning something like that. Idiot.
Maybe if GP had been a man instead of the "we're just happy to be here" bullcrap, then maybe his team would have prepared to play at least at 25% of their capability. Way to step up and rep for the MWC. Well, at least BSU will be in the MWC soon and their win will count. Maybe we could go back retroactively and make the MWC 5-1?
Where to begin?
TCU ran the ball with RB's 10 times. WTH?
They passed on 1st and 10 way too much.
BSU had only one good drive all night and that was because TCU blew it on the fake punt. Seriously, how did GP not know they were planning something like that. Idiot.
Maybe if GP had been a man instead of the "we're just happy to be here" bullcrap, then maybe his team would have prepared to play at least at 25% of their capability. Way to step up and rep for the MWC. Well, at least BSU will be in the MWC soon and their win will count. Maybe we could go back retroactively and make the MWC 5-1?
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mormonrastabyutx wrote:
I'm back after 3 days without a freaking computer. Seriously, I hate Dell!
Where to begin?
TCU ran the ball with RB's 10 times. WTH?
They passed on 1st and 10 way too much.
BSU had only one good drive all night and that was because TCU blew it on the fake punt. Seriously, how did GP not know they were planning something like that. Idiot.
Maybe if GP had been a man instead of the "we're just happy to be here" bullcrap, then maybe his team would have prepared to play at least at 25% of their capability. Way to step up and rep for the MWC. Well, at least BSU will be in the MWC soon and their win will count. Maybe we could go back retroactively and make the MWC 5-1?
Bowl wins mean nothing in the BCS evaluations.
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cougarsunitedsnoscythe wrote:
FWIW, I'm going to back Mars here. What's wrong with being a BSU fan? Mars has made no bones in the past about being a Broncos fan, but that doesn't make him any less a Cougar fan, or any less a contributor to the board.
Granted that means he will defend BSU to the death, but who cares? Accept it and move on. There is nothing requiring rational thought on this board--the nature of a fan-site precludes such a requirement. What we ask for is civility and discourse on the topic at hand. If you are going to go after Mars' posts, go after the substance of his argument, or agree to disagree if you run out of ammo and you are still at odds. Just don't make it personal.
BTW, that goes for Mars too--stick to substance, or let it go.
Can't serve two masters... well, doesn't matter, I'll let it go, I should have turned the other cheek when things got personal. One can be a fan of the sport, appreciate good football and have and objective opinion, but mine is not of such nature. I see college football through the spectacles of BYU. I should have never engaged in a discussion about Boise State, I don't like them and I don't dislike them, much like the other 118 team is FBS, one I love, love, love and one I hate, truly hate, that's it. And for some reason I think that that perspective is in the right place here on a BYU COUGAR forum....
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jonnylingoI am just going to say that if a team beats another in football you have to give them credit for being the better team. while it is not always true that the winning team is better this is college football, not the nba where a bunch of games in a playoff where the truly better teams 4 out of 7 games. this is college football. you have to give them credit. part of being better means showing up for the game. ability only counts in how it is used in that one particular game.
BSU is better than TCU this year. I am okay with that. It becomes harder to swallow saying FSU is better than BYU, but I will do it because I think you just have to given the nature of college football. Every game counts.
BSU is better than TCU this year. I am okay with that. It becomes harder to swallow saying FSU is better than BYU, but I will do it because I think you just have to given the nature of college football. Every game counts.
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mormonrastajonnylingo wrote:
I am just going to say that if a team beats another in football you have to give them credit for being the better team. while it is not always true that the winning team is better this is college football, not the nba where a bunch of games in a playoff where the truly better teams 4 out of 7 games. this is college football. you have to give them credit. part of being better means showing up for the game. ability only counts in how it is used in that one particular game.
BSU is better than TCU this year. I am okay with that. It becomes harder to swallow saying FSU is better than BYU, but I will do it because I think you just have to given the nature of college football. Every game counts.
I agree with your sentiment although I think wins need to be put in context of the entire season.
In the debate of who is better BSU or TCU, I'd have to say BSU because they won a battle of undefeated teams who dominated most of the teams that they played. Therefore, even though I thought TCU's schedule was tougher, BSU deserves the benefit of the doubt.
On the flipside, Stanford beat USC in 2007. I don't think they deserved to be called a better team than USC even though Stanford won the head to head because Stanford did very little throughout the rest of the season to prove that they were a peer of USC.
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cougarsunitedjonnylingo wrote:
I am just going to say that if a team beats another in football you have to give them credit for being the better team. while it is not always true that the winning team is better this is college football, not the nba where a bunch of games in a playoff where the truly better teams 4 out of 7 games. this is college football. you have to give them credit. part of being better means showing up for the game. ability only counts in how it is used in that one particular game.
BSU is better than TCU this year. I am okay with that. It becomes harder to swallow saying FSU is better than BYU, but I will do it because I think you just have to given the nature of college football. Every game counts.
Yes, the screwed up current system only allows us to assess the strength of two teams based on their direct competition, but it's not that simple, BSU might be better than TCU (very questionable though) but there is NO WAY that Florida State is better than BYU...
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SchmoeAlthough BSU's overall body of work this year is not as good as TCU's, you have to say that BSU is the better team. They had the same record coming into the game and they left with the win. I hate to say it, and I THINK that if they played 100 times that TCU wins the majority, but the only thing that matters is what's on the field, to say any differently is to apply the same argument that the BCS schools do when we beat them, and we all know that's just dumb.
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MarsSchmoe wrote:They came into the game with 1 more win than TCU, and they left with 2 more.
Although BSU's overall body of work this year [was] not as good as TCU's, you have to say that BSU is the better team. They had the same record coming into the game and they left with the win.
Boise State, 14-0
TCU, 12-1
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SchmoeYou're right, I forgot about Hawaii.
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