BlueK wrote:
You said he was a dirtbag but now you want "real" dirt? Isn't that a contradiction? I get it. You're dug in. And a lot of this is based on what we believe might happen without being able to perfectly see in the future.
I have a huge amount of respect, even reverence for the Bill of Rights. And for me, with Trump I only have to look as far as things he has actually said that he doesn't give a crap about anything in the first ten amendments except the second. If that's the only one you really care about, then there you go.
this article is based on things he's actually said that run ridiculously against the Constitution. In my view, based on things he's actually said, he has a huge problem with almost every one of our Bill of Rights, as well as the entire concept of separation of powers. Granted, if you don't care, that's you. But I think most reasonable people would admit there is a valid concern here even if they think Hillary is worse. For me, I don't have to vote for either so I will not. Doesn't matter. I'm just one vote out of millions. I wouldn't feel good about myself if I voted for either. No one vote is going to decide it either way. But please read the article below if you're interested in understanding the point of view of those who are scared of Trump.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139
HA. You guys are giving the Trump too much credit. Take the high road with your one measly vote if that's how you view it (this I feel is a problem for repubs - apathy, there is no way Obama should have won a second election except for lack of interest amont repub voters). Trump is all talk and will produce very little bite. If president he'll get up and pound his chest every day and nothing will really happen. Hillary, OTOH, has proven through wikileaks and o'keefe's latest releases that she is dead set on getting her way through violence, bribery and coercion and she has the means to get the job done. She's been running a well oiled mafia machine for decades and hasn't been caught until recently, and we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
I just don't see Trump as a threat. A boy who really never got past the age of 16? sure. But, I don't see him as a threatening dictator. For one, he just doesn't have the experience to make these wholesale changes that #nevertrumpers and the DNC keep parroting. I see VERY LITTLE changing under Trump which is the best case scenario in this election. Hillary? Much more ready to go all in on trampling rights and again, has the means at her disposal to get the job done. She has the connections with the justice dept, the CIA, the FBI, governors, the media, her foundation. The weapons at her disposal are seemingly endless and continue to be exposed the closer to the election we get. Anyone else would have been locked up or at the very least lost all political power 10x by now if they had committed the same crimes as Hillary (petraeus and Abramoff off the top of my head). The fact that Lynch and Comey stepped in and basically stopped any investigation of Hillary is both maddening and frightening. The scale that she has committed fraud, I believe, is only the beginning of what she will continue as president. She has somehow become untouchable. Trump WILL NOT BE UNTOUCHABLE.
Nevertrump has completely overblown the character flaws of Trump. My Goodness!!! Do you see who is going to be elected? Have you thought about the changes she wants to make? Have you seen how she has silenced her critics and castrated any semblance of dissidence? Do we want to have the SCJ picked by such a disgusting individual? Do we want someone of Hillary's past and integrity to hold powers to the much abused executive orders? Hillary will be ruthless, as she always has been. Trump will offend some people, he'll say some politically incorrect things. He'll be the dufus that he is, but he's not going to get much done, which is exactly what I want.
Hillary's depth of involvement and willingness to push the limits of decency while at the same time ignoring any rules/laws/precedent is terrifying. If we're going to have to elect the class clown or the class sociopath, I'm choosing the clown.