In the Last Decade Boise State Beat...

UVACoug wrote:
They have only beat TCU once.

mormonrasta wrote:

mormonrasta wrote:

westidahocougar wrote:
Just to add my prick ranting perspective to this, BSU has beaten more ten win BCS teams than all other mid majors combined in the last decade.

I'd be interested to see the stats- not questioning it, just too busy (or lazy) to go look for myself. Seriously, I'd like to see it. In many ways this could be a better argument for respect than BYU had for the many years of dominating the WAC.



BSU right now, I believe, gets more respect than BYU ever did, but I would hope they realize they get that respect because BYU paved the way.

BSU is good, but not that good.



2001 Fresno st. beat 10-3 Colorado 24-22

2003 Northern Illinois beat 10-3 Maryland 20-13

2003 Memphis beat 10-3 Mississippi 44-34

2003 Marshall beat 11-4 Kansas St. 27-20

2006 BSU beat 10-4 Oregon St. 42-14

2006 BSU beat 11-3 Oklahoma 43-42

2008 East Carolina beat 10-4 VaTech 27-22

2008 BSU beat 10-3 Oregon 37-32

2008 Utah beat 12-2 Alabama 31-17

2009 BSU beat 10-3 Oregon 19-8

2009 BSU beat 12-1 TCU 17-10

Why limit it to BCS schools? If you look at teams that beat non-AQ schools with ten wins the picture will be different.

Why limit it to BCS schools? Because that's what we are talking about!!! As you can see, it's a rarity that nonAQ schools beat 10 win BCS schools, unless you're BSU.

bball wrote:
I don't think your list is complete. You didn't put Oklahoma on the BSU list.



The bigger question is how do they do it? BSU is in a lousy TV market, in a small, Idaho town a thousand miles from anywhere. How do they go undefeated year after year? The "weak conference" doesn't answer the question. You could argue that the MWC is weak conference as well. (BYU nearly lost to New Mexico this year, and other lousy teams last year). The fact that BSU goes out, week in and week out and either defeats every team on their schedule, or they destroy most teams on their schedule. Here is my two cents on the subject:



1. They recruit well, not just speed and size, but smart players, motivated players. I think they have pretty good character too, I don't hear a lot of off the field issues about this program, so their recruiting is very good.

2. They know they cannot just sit back and say "we're going to play our game, and we prepare the same for every team, kind of stuff." They have smart coaches, aggressive coaches, who are not afraid to fake punts, go for it on 4th down, and they pretty well outwit the other coaches and players.

3. They know how to prepare for any given team. They knew what it would take to beat a very good TCU team, and they did those things (neutralize Jerry Hughes, stop their run game, get inside Dalton's head).

4. Neither the coaches or the players have real big egos, they know they have to bring it every game, they know they must out-smart and out-play their opponents (most of them anyway), they know they must execute, and they do.

UVACoug wrote:
But is there a reason why a win against a 10 win BCS school should mean anything different than a win against a 10 win non-BCS school? If there isn't, then this discussion doesn't mean anything unless you include all 10 win teams.

Mars wrote:

But is there a reason why a win against a 10 win BCS school should mean anything different than a win against a 10 win non-BCS school? If there isn't, then this discussion doesn't mean anything unless you include all 10 win teams.

Just look at the Top 25 this year. How many 4 and 5 loss non-BCS teams do you see in the polls? How many BCS teams with equal or more losses are ranked in front of their non-BCS counterparts? Exactly. The voters buy into the label, which makes the label matter, even if it's false.