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Anae to Texas Tech? TAKE HIM AWAY FROM US

by cougarsunited · 1/5/2010

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Schmoe
What were our offensive numbers the past four years? Top ten, top fifteen? Sure, he's a little "vanilla" and predictable, but so are teams like Florida, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc. If it works, then you do it, especially if the other team can't stop you even when they know it's coming. Yeah, he needs to improve and mix it up some more against big teams, but who on any coaching staff is perfect?
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BerliNY
Anae leaving? Now? Doubt it. Didn't his son just get back from the mish to play for the cougs?
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crazycougar84601
ProV1 wrote:
Confirming that rumor would put the crown on a promising off-season. That guy minimized BYU offense to the point it almost hurt. Not only is he conservative and highly predictable on offense, he takes minimal risk, which, if he does, usually results in dilemma. A shame to what BYU offense stands and is known for. If I hear one more time how terrific BYU is on 3rd down I am going to throw up. Anybody realize that our 3rd down conversion is among the highest in FBS because we SUCK on 1st and 2nd down? How about being the nation's leading 2nd AND 3rd down conversion team?

And lastly (this applies to Bronco as well) we play College Football in the MWC... not NFL, not BCS- running up the score when you can is part of becoming a national powerhouse.



See ya Anae and let's get some fire back into BYU offense


Weakest thread award. How does a team that is 11-2 "SUCK" (in all caps mind you) on 1st and 2nd down?



Crowton might be looking for a job soon, what do you think, call him?


Maybe we should give Anae a year off, Hire crowton...work the first year magic, then bring back Anae!
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Cougy_Monster
crazycougar84601 wrote:




Maybe we should give Anae a year off, Hire crowton...work the first year magic, then bring back Anae!


It's too early to play the Crowton card. We need to wait until Heaps is a senior. Crowton could come in and use that recruiting class to blow up all of college football for 1 season. And then retire.



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scott715
Don't want him to leave but if he does, is Norm Chow available? lol!!!
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EM_Puma
snoscythe wrote:
My only criticism of Anae is in-game adjustments. I think he has a very successful, prolific offense, but when his scripted game-plan bogs down, he has not shown the ability to successfully go off script.



He gets by against inferior teams, but when a good defense stymies his initial plan, the game is over for BYU offensively.


That's kind of the feeling I get--right or wrong. Even Crowton, and especially Edwards, were especially gifted at making half-time adjustments. You just knew they'd go in and hundle themselves together, figure out what was not working, and plan accordingly. Anae has always had the attributes of an aircraft carrier making a turn-around. Yes it can do it, but it takes it fifty miles until it's succeeded. Anae appears a little stubborn about admitting that his scheme isn't working and he needs to take another route.



But...as mentioned, it's hard to complain about part of the reason we've had double digit wins four years in a row. If he were actually bad or ineffective, that wouldn't happen. It just seems like he can be better still.
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EM_Puma
One other comment and I'm kind of talking out loud.



I can't seem to come to terms in my mind on this issue with BYU being so successful with four 10 or more win seasons in a row and the fact that we don't seem to lose coaches. Usually that is a mark of success and we've seen Utah go through several coaching changes during KWitt's tenure. I can't tell if that is saying that Bronco went out and found coaches that would just naturally be happy to stay in such a positive and successful environment or whether folks on the outside don't see any of the coaches on BYU's staff being that special. I honestly don't know what to make of the situation. You love to keep good coaches, but historically successful programs have been the breeding grounds for coaches progressing and moving on to bigger and better things. Not here. Hmmmm.
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mormonrasta
EM_Puma wrote:
One other comment and I'm kind of talking out loud.



I can't seem to come to terms in my mind on this issue with BYU being so successful with four 10 or more win seasons in a row and the fact that we don't seem to lose coaches. Usually that is a mark of success and we've seen Utah go through several coaching changes during KWitt's tenure. I can't tell if that is saying that Bronco went out and found coaches that would just naturally be happy to stay in such a positive and successful environment or whether folks on the outside don't see any of the coaches on BYU's staff being that special. I honestly don't know what to make of the situation. You love to keep good coaches, but historically successful programs have been the breeding grounds for coaches progressing and moving on to bigger and better things. Not here. Hmmmm.


I think it depends on the program. There hasn't been many coaching changes involving the assistants at places like Penn St. and Virginia Tech. Florida St. used to be that way as well.
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byutx
Question for Cougarsunited: Were you one of the morons calling for Riley Nelson to replace Max all year?
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jonnylingo
cougarsunited wrote:
Confirming that rumor would put the crown on a promising off-season. That guy minimized BYU offense to the point it almost hurt. Not only is he conservative and highly predictable on offense, he takes minimal risk, which, if he does, usually results in dilemma. A shame to what BYU offense stands and is known for. If I hear one more time how terrific BYU is on 3rd down I am going to throw up. Anybody realize that our 3rd down conversion is among the highest in FBS because we SUCK on 1st and 2nd down? How about being the nation's leading 2nd AND 3rd down conversion team?

And lastly (this applies to Bronco as well) we play College Football in the MWC... not NFL, not BCS- running up the score when you can is part of becoming a national powerhouse.



See ya Anae and let's get some fire back into BYU offense


Not to be rude but your dumb making comments like that.
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jonnylingo
crazycougar84601 wrote:
cougarsunited wrote:
Confirming that rumor would put the crown on a promising off-season. That guy minimized BYU offense to the point it almost hurt. Not only is he conservative and highly predictable on offense, he takes minimal risk, which, if he does, usually results in dilemma. A shame to what BYU offense stands and is known for. If I hear one more time how terrific BYU is on 3rd down I am going to throw up. Anybody realize that our 3rd down conversion is among the highest in FBS because we SUCK on 1st and 2nd down? How about being the nation's leading 2nd AND 3rd down conversion team?

And lastly (this applies to Bronco as well) we play College Football in the MWC... not NFL, not BCS- running up the score when you can is part of becoming a national powerhouse.



See ya Anae and let's get some fire back into BYU offense


Weakest thread award. How does a team that is 11-2 "SUCK" (in all caps mind you) on 1st and 2nd down?



LOL. We wouldn't want crowton for more than two years. he always manages to come ni strong and then within two years suck really bad.



Crowton might be looking for a job soon, what do you think, call him?


Maybe we should give Anae a year off, Hire crowton...work the first year magic, then bring back Anae!
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UVACoug
EM_Puma wrote:
One other comment and I'm kind of talking out loud.



I can't seem to come to terms in my mind on this issue with BYU being so successful with four 10 or more win seasons in a row and the fact that we don't seem to lose coaches. Usually that is a mark of success and we've seen Utah go through several coaching changes during KWitt's tenure. I can't tell if that is saying that Bronco went out and found coaches that would just naturally be happy to stay in such a positive and successful environment or whether folks on the outside don't see any of the coaches on BYU's staff being that special. I honestly don't know what to make of the situation. You love to keep good coaches, but historically successful programs have been the breeding grounds for coaches progressing and moving on to bigger and better things. Not here. Hmmmm.


If there were bigger or better things, I think they would go. But coaching at BYU is a sweet gig. I'm positive there has been interest in our coaches, but I'm not sure how much of that interest they have entertained. How many of Utah's coaches have gone to big time programs that pay a lot of money?
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Gunk
EM_Puma wrote:
One other comment and I'm kind of talking out loud.



I can't seem to come to terms in my mind on this issue with BYU being so successful with four 10 or more win seasons in a row and the fact that we don't seem to lose coaches. Usually that is a mark of success and we've seen Utah go through several coaching changes during KWitt's tenure. I can't tell if that is saying that Bronco went out and found coaches that would just naturally be happy to stay in such a positive and successful environment or whether folks on the outside don't see any of the coaches on BYU's staff being that special. I honestly don't know what to make of the situation. You love to keep good coaches, but historically successful programs have been the breeding grounds for coaches progressing and moving on to bigger and better things. Not here. Hmmmm.


Interesting thought. Never really considered that and now that you mention it I wonder if there is a bit of that going on. I wonder if for many of the coaches coaching at BYU is their apex, so now that they are here the ambition has subsided. Instead of looking to prove themselves, they're simply looking to keep the job they currently have. All they have to do is impress Bronco.
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bball
I think there are a couple of other factors here too. Whether we like to admit it or not, BYU is not looked upon by other programs with any great envy. Yes, we have some respect, but they know this is an LDS school (with all those strange values, you know, no sunday practices, no alcohol, no pre-marital sex), and coaches are not keen on "infecting" their coaching staff or program with some of that "odd" stuff, so I think they don't look seriously at BYU.



Also, I think there is an unspoken (mostly) view of BYU football that BYU doesn't recruit many blacks, we don't have much speed, and we have a "system" that allows us to succeed, but really don't have very good athletes, and they play all those old guys, and they're married (how weird is that?). So the view is one of, "BYU is a curiosity, but don't take them seriously," kind of thing.



And if you are LDS, faithful LDS, and values the LDS values; then yes, BYU is a "sweet gig" and the best place for you to coach--if you aren't paid millions for coaching there. A good friend of mine just retired as a BYU professor. He often complained about how the pay at BYU was not very good, but he loved it there, and he never looked at teaching anywhere else.
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Short_Change
FWIW, my brother's poly connection said that Anae was pretty close with McNeil (I think that's the interim head coach's name), who may end up getting the head coaching spot and Anae could leave to be the offensive coordinator there. I'm assuming he'd get paid more and he liked Texas Tech, so who knows, he could leave for Tech and not be the head coach.
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UVACoug
Short_Change wrote:
FWIW, my brother's poly connection said that Anae was pretty close with McNeil (I think that's the interim head coach's name), who may end up getting the head coaching spot and Anae could leave to be the offensive coordinator there. I'm assuming he'd get paid more and he liked Texas Tech, so who knows, he could leave for Tech and not be the head coach.


It doesn't make a lot of sense with his son coming off his mission and enrolling at BYU, but maybe his son will transfer as well (but would have to sit a year out). From what I have read on the TT message board, McNeil is not expected to last long if he is hired. Maybe Anae figures he has a better shot at the HC job from within the TT program than outside of it.
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Lawboy
ALL I know is that many people wanted to run off Norm chow as well, and now many regret that. I think would be the same with Robert. HE can improve, but he is good at his job.
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Short_Change
UVACoug wrote:
FWIW, my brother's poly connection said that Anae was pretty close with McNeil (I think that's the interim head coach's name), who may end up getting the head coaching spot and Anae could leave to be the offensive coordinator there. I'm assuming he'd get paid more and he liked Texas Tech, so who knows, he could leave for Tech and not be the head coach.


It doesn't make a lot of sense with his son coming off his mission and enrolling at BYU, but maybe his son will transfer as well (but would have to sit a year out). From what I have read on the TT message board, McNeil is not expected to last long if he is hired. Maybe Anae figures he has a better shot at the HC job from within the TT program than outside of it.


For a lot of people more money equals a lot of sense. I'm not saying it does to Anae and like I've said before everything I've heard has been through the grapevine. I was hoping someone who had connections could either confirm the rumors being true (that he's interested in the job and that he's being considered) or refute them.
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Lawboy
The thing about the money. It would not be a small bump in pay. It would 2-3x more pay. Coordinators at BCS schools just make much more, especially than a BYU coach, where the pay is typically less than market rates. Believe me, getting a pay bump from $150k to $3-400k a year would make me seriously consider the offer. I would probably take it.
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craigoscarson
UVACoug wrote:
One other comment and I'm kind of talking out loud.



I can't seem to come to terms in my mind on this issue with BYU being so successful with four 10 or more win seasons in a row and the fact that we don't seem to lose coaches. Usually that is a mark of success and we've seen Utah go through several coaching changes during KWitt's tenure. I can't tell if that is saying that Bronco went out and found coaches that would just naturally be happy to stay in such a positive and successful environment or whether folks on the outside don't see any of the coaches on BYU's staff being that special. I honestly don't know what to make of the situation. You love to keep good coaches, but historically successful programs have been the breeding grounds for coaches progressing and moving on to bigger and better things. Not here. Hmmmm.


If there were bigger or better things, I think they would go. But coaching at BYU is a sweet gig. I'm positive there has been interest in our coaches, but I'm not sure how much of that interest they have entertained. How many of Utah's coaches have gone to big time programs that pay a lot of money?[/


A lot of Utah coaches have gotten big pay raises by leaving the U; included some guy named Urban Meyer.



With the talent coming in to the Y, I wouldn't want to leave this program right now. Why risk going to a floundering program because your name is out there, then wait 4 years when BYU is a top 5 program and people are talking about you for huge jobs... there is some benefit to job security.
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