Unga staying for Senior Year!!

Hopefully he actually is able to return next year if he wants to. I heard rumors that the main reason Staley decided to go pro was because he wasn't going to qualify academically anyway.

snoscythe wrote:
My "totally reading between the lines and making assumptions that are likely baseless" read is this:



The updates on the situation throughout this waiting game indicated that Harvey was facing strong pressure from family and friends both ways. According to the Des News story, Harvey just recently got back his NFL evaluation. This morning, Harvey's dad told the DesNews that Harvey was coming back to get his degree, set records, and help the team.



My baseless read is that it might have been Harvey's dad that was pushing for him to stay in school, and when Harvey decided to go pro, Dad decided to take a last stab at getting Harvey to stay by 'leaking' that he was staying to get the expectations of the Cougar faithful up and put pressure on Harvey not to back out.



Just my conspiracy theory side shining through.

His dad also said that Harvey contacted Bronco and told him he was staying, so I don't think his Dad is lying. My brother's poly connection said he knew a few days ago through the Atuaia's that Harvey was staying. I guess we'll all know soon if he's staying or going.

Wickchad84087 wrote:
Hopefully he actually is able to return next year if he wants to. I heard rumors that the main reason Staley decided to go pro was because he wasn't going to qualify academically anyway.

Staley quit going to class in the fall of the 2001 season. I asked Brett Keisel and Chris Hoke at the Liberty bowl if Luke could come back after his injury and they said there was no way he could make up all the class he skipped.

If Harvey stays, I'm assuming by the time he finished the year he'll end up the winningest running back in BYU history and his rushing records will be next to impossible to break- he'd go down with the legends at BYU :)



If he's nothing but a 5th 6th rd pick, I think becoming a legend at BYU has it's dividends.



This is very exciting news if it's true.



Considering a chance we have a running qb, the offensive line we have coming back, I can see how tempting it would be for Harvey to come back. 1500-2000 yards isn't impossible.



He has to know he'll be the centerpiece of the offense. He could leave BYU with 5,000+ yards rushing and 60 touchdowns. (he has 45 td right now) - I can't imagine those records would ever be broken.

craigoscarson wrote:
If Harvey stays, I'm assuming by the time he finished the year he'll end up the winningest running back in BYU history and his rushing records will be next to impossible to break- he'd go down with the legends at BYU :)



If he's nothing but a 5th 6th rd pick, I think becoming a legend at BYU has it's dividends.



This is very exciting news if it's true.



Considering a chance we have a running qb, the offensive line we have coming back, I can see how tempting it would be for Harvey to come back. 1500-2000 yards isn't impossible.



He has to know he'll be the centerpiece of the offense. He could leave BYU with 5,000+ yards rushing and 60 touchdowns. (he has 45 td right now) - I can't imagine those records would ever be broken.

He would also become the 10th or 11th running back in NCAA history to rush for 1,000 yards in 4 seasons.

Mars wrote:


Like I've said before, I always felt like he would stay to earn a degree because of the meaning that has with his parents.

honk honk.

snoscythe wrote:

Per his father:



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705357992/BYU-football-Harvey-Unga-will-return-for-senior-season.html?linkTrack=rss-28

Looks like Dad jumped the gun. Jay Drew texted Harvey, and Harvey said he had not made up his mind yet:



http://blogs.sltrib.com/byu/index.php?p=9040&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1



My read is that Harvey is NOT coming back, based on this last line of the text exchange: "I gotta talk to coach mendenhall about some stuff b4 I declare for sure!!"



Like Drew says though, you be the judge.

If you go further up in that same text from Unga, it says he's thinking about coming back for school stuff. I think "b4 I declare" means declare which way he's going to go.



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he'll have my vote for president if he returns.

stuckinbig10country wrote:
If you go further up in that same text from Unga, it says he's thinking about coming back for school stuff. I think "b4 I declare" means declare which way he's going to go.



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That's how I read it. He'll "declare" his decision after he talks to the coach.



I hope he returns, but I say go to the NFL if the report is favorable. He can always finish his degree via IS.

This thread had me on a emotional roller coaster as I read it from start to finish...I hope that he does stay but wish him well no matter what he chooses.

I guess Heaps must have given him a call.

Don't shoot me for this, but am I the only one that doesn't think that staying is the best move for him? I love seeing my Cougars do well in the NFL and running backs (fullbacks) have a limited shelf-life. What else does he have to prove here?



The only advantage I see in not-going pro is if you think you're done playing football after college and want to live as much glory as you can while you can.



Obviously I want the best possible rusher behind our massive O-line, but like we talked about in other threads, with a new QB, teams are going to dial-in on Harvey and make us beat them in the air. It's going to limit his production, even if the O-line is a season better than before.



Then again, if Harvey reads this...what would I want him to think?..hmm...I support you no matter what you do!



Go Cougars.

byutx wrote:

Harvey's return makes me expect one more win next season than I expected without him.

It'll be fun watching Harvey run all over Utah's rebuilt defense next season.

I still get a kick out of that video of Unga flattening what's-his-mouth the :utard: to go into the end zone. I was in that end zone that game, and I went nuts when I saw it! :lol: :lol: :lol:



P.S. To this day, it is my background image on my monitor.

Iceman wrote:

snoscythe wrote:
Harvey's return makes me expect one more win next season than I expected without him.

It'll be fun watching Harvey run all over Utah's rebuilt defense next season.

I still get a kick out of that video of Unga flattening what's-his-mouth the :utard: to go into the end zone. I was in that end zone that game, and I went nuts when I saw it! :lol: :lol: :lol:



P.S. To this day, it is my background image on my monitor.

That was Robert Johnson, #17, strong safety IIRC. That is also perhaps my favorite BYU football image, and I would like to know where to find the modded version where the background is black and white, but Harvey is in color. Harvey is looking back at a crumpled Johnson, with a bemused look on his face as though thinking "did I just hit something?" :lol:

CougarPeasant wrote:
I hope he returns, but I say go to the NFL if the report is favorable.

What is "favorable" in your opinion? In mine, rounds 5-7 are NOT, and that's where I think he falls...



P.S. "BYU football media relations director Brett Pyne said Harvey Unga is not prepared to make any announcement for now. The deadline to declare for the draft is Friday." http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705357992/BYU-football-Harvey-Unga-expected-to-return.html



http://universe.byu.edu/node/5144



http://heraldextra.com/sports/college/byu/darnell-dickson/article_be449d16-ffd7-11de-a126-001cc4c03286.html

[ P.S. To this day, it is my background image on my monitor.

Mine too.



That was Robert Johnson, #17, strong safety IIRC. That is also perhaps my favorite BYU football image, and I would like to know where to find the modded version where the background is black and white, but Harvey is in color. Harvey is looking back at a crumpled Johnson, with a bemused look on his face as though thinking "did I just hit something?" :lol:

It was actually Steve Tate that he ran over.

JUSTBYU wrote:

[ P.S. To this day, it is my background image on my monitor.

Mine too.

Same here.

JUSTBYU wrote:

[ P.S. To this day, it is my background image on my monitor.

Mine too.



That was Robert Johnson, #17, strong safety IIRC. That is also perhaps my favorite BYU football image, and I would like to know where to find the modded version where the background is black and white, but Harvey is in color. Harvey is looking back at a crumpled Johnson, with a bemused look on his face as though thinking "did I just hit something?" :lol:

It was actually Steve Tate that he ran over.

Harvey ran over more than one Ute on more than one occaision, so I think everyone is right:



Steve Tate:

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Robert Johnson:

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http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/heraldextra.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/1/6e/ba0/16eba01f-dd34-53cd-8cc7-8a6e18aaf7ba.image.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">



John Doe:

http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/2161685.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">

snoscythe wrote:

John Doe:

http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/2161685.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">

John Doe was Stevenson Sylvester. And it was AWESOME.