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I'm Excited - Kyle Van Noy & Quezada

by Ddawg · 3/16/2010

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Ddawg
With Spring Football practice underway - most of the talk surrounds the QB question.



But - IMHO - the players I am most excited to see "shake out" are Kyle Van Noy & Joshua Quezada!!! It's been a long year - waiting to get Kyle to the Y. Now he's here. I think he'll have an impact & a solid contribution. I'm solid in Kyle's corner!!



Also - as the week progresses - I think Quezada will emerge are a viable true Freshman weapon. I think Harvey will enjoy having a solid back-up option. Give his body a break.



My other hope is - Soto can stay healthy. If so, he'll make a real impact!! IMHO



Go Cougs!!!

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gmj81
Those are indeed going to be three very good stories to watch play out this spring and summer.



In my opinion, not only is Kyle good enough to play in 2010, but we're going to need him! With the news that Grant Nelson is forgoing his senior season, we are going to be a little thin at LB, especially through spring camp. I'm counting on Van Noy to lock up the WOLB staring spot. And I think Ogletree will have secured the Mike before all is said and done and it will come down to either Atkinson or Leung-Wai for the Buck.



I'm really curious to see how Maslosi Te'o looks this spring as well as the continued progress of DiLuigi and Kariya. As good as I expect Quezada to be, I'd love to be able to redshirt him this first year. We've got a very deep stable of capable RBs. If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi, then I expect the touches are going to be few. Kariya may move to a full time FB role. And Te'o was purported to be the most athletic guy of the bunch (at least prior to Quezada, I don't know about now). When you consider the other change-up type backs we could utilize like Falsev or Phillips, I just think it would be best for Josh to sit this first year out if at all possible, so we can save his eligibility and so he can learn the blocking schemes which are critical to this offense. BYU RBs have to prove they can do it all (run, catch and block) before they see much of the field. All that said, he might just be too good to keep off.



The other thing is we want to send Harvey off right. That means he's got to get at least 20 touches a game and average 4.5 ypc so that he can become only the 9th RB in FBS history to have four consecutive seasons with 1,000+ yards rushing. With another 1545 yards, he could eclipse 5000 yards rushing for his career and be on an even shorter list of RB greats. With another 415 more receiving yards Harvey would have a career count of 1500, which I seriously doubt any of the guys who have more rushing yards than him were anywhere close to touching. But I see that as much less likely give the gluttony of assorted great receivers we'll have.



Even if we go heavy on rushes (35 a game) that doesn't leave too many for any of the other RBs so Quezada's year would just be wasted. Again, unless we know for certain that Quezada is too good to not give at least 5-8 touches a a game, I say save him so we can maximize his years with us.



Now, if Vic can stay healthy, I'm so excited to see what he can do to opposing QBs. I think he'll tear them limb from limb. He's managed to pack on the weight to play DE but has still maintained his speed. With a breakout year, he could be a solid middle-round pick in next year's draft. But that's if he can stay healthy.
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jonnylingo
Ddawg wrote:
With Spring Football practice underway - most of the talk surrounds the QB question.



But - IMHO - the players I am most excited to see "shake out" are Kyle Van Noy & Joshua Quezada!!! It's been a long year - waiting to get Kyle to the Y. Now he's here. I think he'll have an impact & a solid contribution. I'm solid in Kyle's corner!!



Also - as the week progresses - I think Quezada will emerge are a viable true Freshman weapon. I think Harvey will enjoy having a solid back-up option. Give his body a break.



My other hope is - Soto can stay healthy. If so, he'll make a real impact!! IMHO



Go Cougs!!!

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You last hope is my biggest. We are thin there and i think Sooto will be excellent if he stays healthy.
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BigCougsFan
gmj81 wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.
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BroncoBot
BigCougsFan wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.

??? I thought Diluigi was a solid contributor in a few games. He's no Harvey Unga, but man, let's cut the underclassman some slack. Wouldn't surprise me if Diluigi opened a lot of people's eyes this year.
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gmj81
BigCougsFan wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.


Sheesh, man. Some fans just don't forget. Chambers and DiLuigi have a couple of fumbles EARLY in their careers and nobody will let them forget about it. With the amount of touches JJ got last year, I thought he did great and showed how he can change the dynamic of the offense. He's a tough runner, even between the tackles, despite his smaller stature and he's so shifty so he can make a guy miss in a phone booth. He didn't fumble once last year so get over it. Max Hall fumbled it a bunch his first two years... Were you calling for his head too?
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Ddawg
gmj81 wrote:
gmj81 wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.


JJ ... I thought he did great and showed how he can change the dynamic of the offense. He's a tough runner, even between the tackles, despite his smaller stature and he's so shifty so he can make a guy miss in a phone booth. He didn't fumble once last year so get over it.


Exactly!!! JJ has improved. Your description is perfect. He's shifty - jukes w/ the best - accelerates & finds another gear when you don't expect it. I predict - JJ will have a breakout year. I sincerely believe that between Unga, JJ & Quezada - BYU will have a serious triple threat coming out of the backfield that defenses will have to plan for. It will be unpredictable. This will take pressure off the QB (whoever that is) to connect w/ his multiple weapons. I'm excited about the possibilities. The naysayers will be surprised!!! IMHO.

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JamieVallen
I wish JJ was a little taller because I think we could find another place for him on the team, where he could make big contributions, like a linebacker or something. Because as somebody said we're a little thin at that position.
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BOID
Ddawg wrote:
BigCougsFan wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.


JJ ... I thought he did great and showed how he can change the dynamic of the offense. He's a tough runner, even between the tackles, despite his smaller stature and he's so shifty so he can make a guy miss in a phone booth. He didn't fumble once last year so get over it.


Exactly!!! JJ has improved. Your description is perfect. He's shifty - jukes w/ the best - accelerates & finds another gear when you don't expect it. I predict - JJ will have a breakout year. I sincerely believe that between Unga, JJ & Quezada - BYU will have a serious triple threat coming out of the backfield that defenses will have to plan for. It will be unpredictable. This will take pressure off the QB (whoever that is) to connect w/ his multiple weapons. I'm excited about the possibilities. The naysayers will be surprised!!! IMHO.

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Agreed.



JJ will continue to develop, as will Chambers. They both came to Div I with superior athletic ability and confidence, but needed time to develop hands capable of protecting the ball at this level. I think they've both done that. They will both be big contributors in their last two years. JJ will be the next Reno Mahe, and Chambers will be the next Jamal Willis (at least, in the receiver role that Willis played as a RB vs Chambers' formal role as a WR). Willis was a little bit hot-and-cold, but when he was hot, he made incredible plays.



Regarding RB's, we're stacked. Even if Q redshirts, we will be deep with Unga, Kariya, Di Luigi, and Malosi Teo, not to mention Brown, Moore, and Phillips as other new-comers. I strongly suspect that at least two of these talented four new guys will be red-shirted.
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bigbluepuma
We also have Mike Hague. I think he red shirted last year, but he will be available and back into shape. He showed a lot of promise before his mission.
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Mars


DiLuigi will get more carries than any other RB but Unga this year, and it probably won't be close. He's a great player.
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BOID
Since Hague initially wanted to be a safety---- the question arises: Considering the vacancy there after Scott Johnson, will they let Hague try out as a safety again? I haven't heard news re: Jray Galeai or Gary Nagy--- are they on missions?
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gmj81
Apparently they've asked Hague to try out for deep snapper. I'm guessing his days at RB are numbered but he still might make a good FB. I'd like to see him maybe get some work at ILB. In high school he seemed like a real ball hawk so maybe he could have some success on the defensive side. But he just looked too chunky last year to be much of an effective RB or safety, granted he was fresh off a mission and maybe he's dropped some weight since then. The deep snapper bit leads me to think otherwise though.
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SpiffCoug
I wasn't encouraged by Hague deep snapping. He's not the biggest of guys. But it is definitely a necessary skill the team needs. I don't think he's that good of an RB (even FB) but if he can get deep snapping down, it's definitely going to be a way he can contribute to the success of the team.
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BigCougsFan
gmj81 wrote:
He didn't fumble once last year so get over it. Max Hall fumbled it a bunch his first two years... Were you calling for his head too?


Get over it? Like I said... He was good in the '09 season with NOT a fumble AND not much playing time. I wasn't calling for his head. I trust our coaches to make the correct decision.
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clemdiggitydog1
declocoug wrote:
gmj81 wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.

??? I thought Diluigi was a solid contributor in a few games. He's no Harvey Unga, but man, let's cut the underclassman some slack. Wouldn't surprise me if Diluigi opened a lot of people's eyes this year.
Personally,i think the coaches will feature J.J. much more this year and we'll see an explosion in his contributions.he won't be the featured back this year but will provide a bridge to the future at the position in 2011 when Harvey leaves.Although Quezada comes in with big upside,as has been pointed out the best place for him in his long term development with Harvey back, will be wearing a red shirt in 2010.
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scott715
With the talent that we have, if they are good enough to play and they are needed then play them instead of redshirting. Now I wouldn't waste a year for them to play a couple of snaps. Q could be good enough to use this year and rotate with Unga.
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snoscythe
gmj81 wrote:
gmj81 wrote:
If Harvey is 100% healthy to start the season (unlike each of the past two seasons) and we see the kind of jump I expect to see from DiLuigi...


What do you expect of DiLuigi??? I had some resonable expectations of him and I honestly don't think he's came anywhere close to those. Mr. Butterfingers was actually good in the '09 season with not fumbling the ball, but other than that... He hasn't had much playing time AND hasn't done anything IMHO to deserve any playing time.


Sheesh, man. Some fans just don't forget. Chambers and DiLuigi have a couple of fumbles EARLY in their careers and nobody will let them forget about it. With the amount of touches JJ got last year, I thought he did great and showed how he can change the dynamic of the offense. He's a tough runner, even between the tackles, despite his smaller stature and he's so shifty so he can make a guy miss in a phone booth. He didn't fumble once last year so get over it. Max Hall fumbled it a bunch his first two years... Were you calling for his head too?


Quezada has had three fumbles already in camp. He'll never amount to anything. ;)
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gmj81
scott715 wrote:
With the talent that we have, if they are good enough to play and they are needed then play them instead of redshirting. Now I wouldn't waste a year for them to play a couple of snaps. Q could be good enough to use this year and rotate with Unga.


That's true but if he's not considerably better than JJ, Kariya or Te'o (at ALL the aspects these guys are expected to be able to do) by the time the fall rolls around then you've got no choice but to redshirt him. Or at least not doing so would be stupid. Josh is going to be pretty great but at this point he doesn't provide us much of a change in pace to Harvey while JJ can do just that and has proven dependable at all the other things too. Quezada is going to be a real talent for us and even has the potential IMO to break Harvey's records. But he could certainly benefit from a redshirt year to get the system down. Next year Harvey will be gone and he'll likely split time with JJ. Then JJ will be gone and Josh will be the primary ball carrier in his sophomore year.
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Mars
clemdiggitydog1 wrote:
Personally,i think the coaches will feature J.J. much more this year and we'll see an explosion in his contributions.

J.J. has actually been working a lot on a new role, on top of being a running back, as a slot receiver. It seems to be a very good fit. McKay Jacobsen, Faslev, Marshall, and Covey are also practicing at that position.
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