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Questons from a Utah fan

by MTM · 6/18/2010

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northerncougar
ttribe wrote:
ttribe wrote:
I'm not big on definitive predictions on sports outcomes, but here's one I feel very confident in - Utah will not be in the Rose Bowl within 3 years. That prediction is based on watching both the PAC and the MWC for several years now.

What makes you say that? Both Boise State and TCU would have easily won the PAC-0 last year. Utah was much better in '08 and '04 than they were in '09. And if they end up in a division with USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Colorado, that's 4 garbage schools and one great school that's currently a sinking ship. So where does the false confidence come from?

Given your proclivity for hyperbolic characterizations of other programs ("garbage schools"), it seems pointless to argue the point that I believe (based on observation) that enduring an entire PAC-10 season to be more difficult than the typical MWC season. I guess we'll just have to see, now won't we?


You are spot on. Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.
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blue42
northerncougar wrote:

You are spot on. Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.


WHAT? I think you are mistaken here because once Utah officially starts play in the pac whatever they get access to the "magic" potion. Just like those who search for the "fountain of youth", this magic potion comes from the "fountain of snobbery because we are a BSC conference", so all of the frUtes road woes will become a thing of the past.
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CannonCougar85
blue42 wrote:

You are spot on. Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.


WHAT? I think you are mistaken here because once Utah officially starts play in the pac whatever they get access to the "magic" potion. Just like those who search for the "fountain of youth", this magic potion comes from the "fountain of snobbery because we are a BSC conference", so all of the frUtes road woes will become a thing of the past.


I heard that the pUkes won't actually have to play a single game in the PAC. They will just be in the National Championship game every single year...at least that is the feeling I get when speaking to pUke fans.
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Mars
northerncougar wrote:
Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.

I read that Utah has gone 1-6 @ PAC-10 schools since 2000. Who are those six losses to? Oregon, Oregon State, and... Who was that one win against?
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MTM
Mars wrote:
Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.

I read that Utah has gone 1-6 @ PAC-10 schools since 2000. Who are those six losses to? Oregon, Oregon State, and... Who was that one win against?


This is a pretty cool site that you can look up any football results since 1945 although it doesn't specify home/away games



http://michigan-football.com/ncaa/ncaa_1a.htm
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northerncougar
Mars wrote:
Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.

I read that Utah has gone 1-6 @ PAC-10 schools since 2000. Who are those six losses to? Oregon, Oregon State, and... Who was that one win against?


Utah is 5-6 against PAC10 teams since 2000:

1-5 on the Road, 4-1 at home. If you count the two bowl games they are 7-5, but I am only looking at regular season games.



Home

2000

AZ 17-3 L



2003

Cal 31-24 W

OR 17-13 W



2005

AZ 27-24 W



2008

OR St. 31-28 W





Road

2000

Cal 24-21 L



2001

OR 24-10 L



2002

AZ 23-17 L



2004

AZ 23-6 W



2007

OR St 24-7 L



2009

OR 31-24 L



There is only one "dominating" win, 2004. That is Utah's best team by a huge margin.
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StatsCougar
northerncougar wrote:
northerncougar wrote:
Utah hasn't been particularly stellar on the road. Becoming part of the Pac10 doesn't magically change that.

I read that Utah has gone 1-6 @ PAC-10 schools since 2000. Who are those six losses to? Oregon, Oregon State, and... Who was that one win against?


Utah is 5-6 against PAC10 teams since 2000:

1-5 on the Road, 4-1 at home. If you count the two bowl games they are 7-5, but I am only looking at regular season games.



Home

2000

AZ 17-3 L



2003

Cal 31-24 W

OR 17-13 W



2005

AZ 27-24 W



2008

OR St. 31-28 W





Road

2000

Cal 24-21 L



2001

OR 24-10 L



2002

AZ 23-17 L



2004

AZ 23-6 W



2007

OR St 24-7 L



2009

OR 31-24 L



There is only one "dominating" win, 2004. That is Utah's best team by a huge margin.


You're missing Utah victory over UCLA in 2007. If everyone remembers, Utah played UCLA the week after we lost to them. That would also mean that in 2006, Utah played UCLA at the Rose Bowl. IIRC they lost.
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Mars


So Utah is 0-4 @ "PAC-12 North" schools since 2000, and 1-2 @ "PAC-12 South" schools. Good thing for them they should end up in a south division, according to CU and prior reports.
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