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Ryker Mathews to BYU!!

by craigoscarson · 8/18/2010

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Brayden Green
PurpleReign wrote:
Reign, you really think that statement is helpful? I actually have mildly enjoyed some of your posts, it would be a shame to lose you because you couldnt keep yourself in check. Isnt going to matter soon. Your angst over BYU's rising potential to "knock-off" your Huskies is going to reveal your short term desire to troll here, increase your unwanted smack, and send you off incredulously and dissappointedly to whomever your second game trolling happens to be--either because you get the MOD squad to cut you off (no pun intended) or you lose the game and leave for good.

Go ahead and follow BYU31, he's leading the way. Youre next, i'm afraid. Get control of yourselves.




For real? I think my posts have been really tame and don't even remotely approach "trolling". What about all the Udub smack you guys post here yourself, or is it a one way street here?


Reign, you have been a teeny tiny bit trollish in the back and forth... or did you forget:




"And Jake Heaps went to BYU because he is Mormon, don't kid yourself if you think it was for any other reason. Outside of the Mormon community BYU is not high on many peoples radar. That is why BYU does not get elite prospects unless they are Mormon, it's the nature of a religious school in a lower tier conference (ND and SMU (20 years ago) being a couple of exceptions of schools who transcended their religious affiliations, in part because of success but also because of simple numbers, there are far more Christians than Mormons playing football). "
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PurpleReign
Not really fair to pull that single post and display it out of context. It was fairly inline with the flow of that thread and I stand by what I said at the time I said it, in the discussion it was posted in. But that's old news now.
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byucougar1
Did I miss something in this thread, Ryker Matthews committed to BYU because he could drink/eat caffeine and not break the honor code?
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craigoscarson
PurpleReign wrote:
Well, I will never be an obnoxious troll by any means, but a little give and take seems pretty civil and standard in the world of sports fans. If I get banned, so be it, but in the mean time I look forward to more discussions leading up to the season opener :crazy:


the only way you're getting banned here is if you



1. come as a "wolf" in sheeps clothing (the most insidious type of troll that pawns themselves off as a BYU fan and eventually can't contain their stupidity). We know how you roll and you're not even close to that type. BYU31 was that type and we've dealt with several others for countless months, even years; which led the mods to create this forum.



2. religious bigots - these guys are pretty easy to target and don't last long; you've treaded lightly here



3. firestarters and name callers; these guys tend to get a lot more rope - we know who they are but they're constantly a work in progress. some dont' last, others have been around forever.



4. Opposing team fans that have major meltdowns... you're not there yet. We deal with elitist BCS conference peeps all the time. We've heard it all, in fact nothing you've told us about UW is news. We've also seen those same peeps start out friendly and then go Jekyl and Hyde as the game gets closer, and often even after we tear their hearts out. Which is exactly what we saw with your twin brother zachsooners last year just about this time.



Reign, you're still one of the good ones. A little misinformed as to BYUs honor code, recruiting, and of course way off on your QB U argument, but nothing we wouldn't expect from most UW fans.

You can imagine how we'd be accepted if we went to UWs forum and told them that we're QB U, and what a UW recruit can and can't do.



The true test is what your true colors are in the next 3 weeks. I assure you that unless the refs blow the game that most of us are all class after a win or loss; assuming that you keep your cool.

Most Oklahoma fans were very classy last year; i was almost shocked with how cool they were; and I was at the game.
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Ddawg
craigoscarson wrote:
I love that I beat TBS and rumorboard on this. Shows that a little love on facebook can go a long way.


Yeahhhh baby!!!!! You da man!!!!!!!

:crazy:
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PurpleReign
craigoscarson wrote:
Well, I will never be an obnoxious troll by any means, but a little give and take seems pretty civil and standard in the world of sports fans. If I get banned, so be it, but in the mean time I look forward to more discussions leading up to the season opener :crazy:


the only way you're getting banned here is if you



1. come as a "wolf" in sheeps clothing (the most insidious type of troll that pawns themselves off as a BYU fan and eventually can't contain their stupidity). We know how you roll and you're not even close to that type. BYU31 was that type and we've dealt with several others for countless months, even years; which led the mods to create this forum.



2. religious bigots - these guys are pretty easy to target and don't last long; you've treaded lightly here



3. firestarters and name callers; these guys tend to get a lot more rope - we know who they are but they're constantly a work in progress. some dont' last, others have been around forever.



4. Opposing team fans that have major meltdowns... you're not there yet. We deal with elitist BCS conference peeps all the time. We've heard it all, in fact nothing you've told us about UW is news. We've also seen those same peeps start out friendly and then go Jekyl and Hyde as the game gets closer, and often even after we tear their hearts out. Which is exactly what we saw with your twin brother zachsooners last year just about this time.



Reign, you're still one of the good ones. A little misinformed as to BYUs honor code, recruiting, and of course way off on your QB U argument, but nothing we wouldn't expect from most UW fans.

You can imagine how we'd be accepted if we went to UWs forum and told them that we're QB U, and what a UW recruit can and can't do.



The true test is what your true colors are in the next 3 weeks. I assure you that unless the refs blow the game that most of us are all class after a win or loss; assuming that you keep your cool.

Most Oklahoma fans were very classy last year; i was almost shocked with how cool they were; and I was at the game.




Fair enough. I am agnostic or maybe even atheist, but at the same time I am not here to give you grief for your beliefs. Obviously since I am coming from a different point of view, we will see some things differently, from a different angle, but I have no intention to be a jerk to any of you because of a difference in opinion on some subjects.



I do try to push back a little when you guys throw a little mud our way but it's all in good fun, I don't mean anything on a personal level.



I can tell you one thing, no matter what the outcome is, I can't wait for the season to start 8)
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HoosierCougar
I was talking to Jeff Foxworthy tonight. He reminded me that "if you've ever turned a BYU recruiting thread into an argument over whether Coke/Pepsi/Dr Pepper is prohibited by the Word of Wisdom... you might be a Mormon."
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Brayden Green
Hey, we didn't start it!
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craigoscarson
byu31 wrote:
Craig, your counting your chicks before they hatch. He is still considering Utah and BYU and far from commiting to BYU. Your facebook source is unrealible at best, sorry to burst your bubble but he is going to be a UTE.


Just had a nice chat with Blair Tushaus. He said that Ryker was on campus today and they all saw him. Coach Weber has been kicking their freshmen butts and he wouldn't wish that on anyone, including Ryker. (put a smile on my face)



I'm starting to come around on Weber. Freshmen need tough love, badly.



I think at some point, we'll hear the story on what convinced Ryker to make his decision. Aside from the obvious friends he has on the team, I suspect he had some sort of epiphany. (I also suspect that Jake Heaps is a part of the story)
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Cougs_Rule
QuarterbackU wrote:
dmcougar has offended more posters than you in the last two days with his self righteous rants don't worry purple reign, we are not all like that. Your comments are appreciated by most. dmcougar found a hershey bar in his trousers but not the kind you can eat if you know what I mean.


QuarterbackU, really? C'mon man. Can you manage something more intelligent than high school lockerroom talk?

You might want to consider siding up with some U fans, because they seem to make lockerroom talk and actions as well as taking offense a lifestyle. PArticularly when it comes to someone calling them out on keeping the conversation clean--as though they have some inalienable right to express even their crass selves. Nobody takes offense better than Yewt fans. TO give you the benefit of the doubt, it doesnt seem like you are there yet.

I dont know if you are talking about your multiple personalities as being offended or if you took some private poll, but who else are you referring to when you say "more posters" than just Reign? One or two other posters?
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Please keep topics related to Ryker Mathews. Remember you can always Private Message other users if you want to talk specifically to them.
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craigoscarson
So apparently, Ryker loves Coach Weber and has been to many BYU practices. I don't expect Utah to completely lay off recruiting him but I get the impression that Rykers decision is bigger than conference affiliation etc.



This is a great get, a thoughtful and patient kid that apparently just loves football. I'm stoked. Give me Joe Sampson and Harvey Langi and i'll be on cloud nine. Give me Joe Sampson and I'll call this class a success... (unless Bingham gives up a single point this year)
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Ddawg
craigoscarson wrote:
Craig, your counting your chicks before they hatch. He is still considering Utah and BYU and far from commiting to BYU. Your facebook source is unrealible at best, sorry to burst your bubble but he is going to be a UTE.


Just had a nice chat with Blair Tushaus. He said that Ryker was on campus today and they all saw him.



I'm starting to come around on Weber.



I think at some point, we'll hear the story on what convinced Ryker to make his decision. (I also suspect that Jake Heaps is a part of the story)


Agreed. I'm starting to like Weber too - especially if he can work his "magic" on these high level recruits! What a "get!"
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craigoscarson
Ddawg wrote:
byu31 wrote:
Craig, your counting your chicks before they hatch. He is still considering Utah and BYU and far from commiting to BYU. Your facebook source is unrealible at best, sorry to burst your bubble but he is going to be a UTE.


Just had a nice chat with Blair Tushaus. He said that Ryker was on campus today and they all saw him.



I'm starting to come around on Weber.



I think at some point, we'll hear the story on what convinced Ryker to make his decision. (I also suspect that Jake Heaps is a part of the story)


Agreed. I'm starting to like Weber too - especially if he can work his "magic" on these high level recruits! What a "get!"




Funny thing, is the 1st year, a lot of us were down on Weber. Apparently he just needed time to get into his groove. I love position coaches that can naildown recruits. (I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Brian Mitchell because of that; the Cotton Bowl never happens without his boys)
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Mars


Ryker Mathews is the kid whose mom called Dr. Laura asking how she could force her son to go to BYU, even though he wanted to go to another local university instead.



Also, Scout.com has Asiata listed as the best lineman in the state of Utah this year.



Still, this kid looks to be very, VERY talented, and I'm happy that we landed him!





But yeah, Blair Tushaus does NOT like Coach Weber's workouts...
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craigoscarson
Mars wrote:


Ryker Mathews is the kid whose mom called Dr. Laura asking how she could force her son to go to BYU, even though he wanted to go to another local university instead.



Also, Scout.com has Asiata listed as the best lineman in the state of Utah this year.



Still, this kid looks to be very, VERY talented, and I'm happy that we landed him!





But yeah, Blair Tushaus does NOT like Coach Weber's workouts...


scout has the utah kids all wrong this year. ryker was by far and away the best lineman at the all poly camp, the byu camp and the utah nike camp... it was almoast as if scout acted to keep him under the radar until BYU got him.
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scott715
Rivals has him tied with Langi as the best recruit in Utah this year.
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beauso79
craigoscarson wrote:
So apparently, Ryker loves Coach Weber and has been to many BYU practices. I don't expect Utah to completely lay off recruiting him but I get the impression that Rykers decision is bigger than conference affiliation etc.



This is a great get, a thoughtful and patient kid that apparently just loves football. I'm stoked. Give me Joe Sampson and Harvey Langi and i'll be on cloud nine. Give me Joe Sampson and I'll call this class a success... (unless Bingham gives up a single point this year)


I don't see why Langi would head our way now with all the RB talent we have unless he wants to go on a mission then all is great
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Cougs_Rule
beauso79 wrote:
So apparently, Ryker loves Coach Weber and has been to many BYU practices. I don't expect Utah to completely lay off recruiting him but I get the impression that Rykers decision is bigger than conference affiliation etc.



This is a great get, a thoughtful and patient kid that apparently just loves football. I'm stoked. Give me Joe Sampson and Harvey Langi and i'll be on cloud nine. Give me Joe Sampson and I'll call this class a success... (unless Bingham gives up a single point this year)


I don't see why Langi would head our way now with all the RB talent we have unless he wants to go on a mission then all is great


Or if its RB by committee and the next unga does not emerge this year?
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Lawboy
Adam Hine is back next year. Dude was a 4*, and I think many BYU fans forget about him. Sampson is more important to me than Langi. Just sayin.
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