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Will Chambers Transfer?

by hawkwing · 9/23/2010

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Linette Chambers wrote:
Just when I thought it was the end of the world you guys always manage to crack me up! It will have to get better hell the way I look at it the odds are against him anyway but the greatest thing is he is beating the odds at his age!



#1 he is not in jail calling to be bonded out

#2 he doesn't have a baby mama

#3 he hasn't robbed anyone

#4 he hasn't commited murder



So I think in my shoes we are doing ok!

My disclaimer "WORK IN PROGRESS" GOD is working overtime with many other things and may have thought he can miss a visit. On a serious note just prayer for all these fine young men trying to do the right thing, especially mine he is a good hearted person just needs lots and lots of prayer not bashing! Without that we have nothing. Just look around the devil is hard at work. We all live in glass houses so we should be very careful where we throw stones.



Linette Chambers


I just hope that he is listening to his wise mother and not the "friends" that are telling him to ruin his life by quitting and going home. I still think he will be a great BYU reciever if he makes things right with Bronco and works even harder to be a success on the field.
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kiwibacon
BoiseBYU wrote:
Just when I thought it was the end of the world you guys always manage to crack me up! It will have to get better hell the way I look at it the odds are against him anyway but the greatest thing is he is beating the odds at his age!



#1 he is not in jail calling to be bonded out

#2 he doesn't have a baby mama

#3 he hasn't robbed anyone

#4 he hasn't commited murder



So I think in my shoes we are doing ok!

My disclaimer "WORK IN PROGRESS" GOD is working overtime with many other things and may have thought he can miss a visit. On a serious note just prayer for all these fine young men trying to do the right thing, especially mine he is a good hearted person just needs lots and lots of prayer not bashing! Without that we have nothing. Just look around the devil is hard at work. We all live in glass houses so we should be very careful where we throw stones.



Linette Chambers

This world needs more mothers like you Mrs. Chambers....

+1,000!!! :)
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Ddawg
Lawboy wrote:
Harmon just tweeted:

Harmonwrites Chambers changing housing arrangements is a requirement to return to the football team, say sources.



Sounds like Linette was working to keep him here since yesterday. Good mom. I think he stays.


Linette is "One Helluva Mom!!" She is rock solid. As long as O'Neill listens to his Mom - he'll be A-Ok!

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Linette Chambers wrote:



#1 he is not in jail calling to be bonded out

#2 he doesn't have a baby mama

#3 he hasn't robbed anyone

#4 he hasn't commited murder



Linette Chambers


Hold it... "he isn't wearing a Hannah Montana t-shirt to practices" was not on the list... that can only mean....



OMG EVERYBODY, CHAMBERS HAS BEEN WEARING HANNAH MONTANA T-SHIRTS TO PRACTICES!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!
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NebraskaCoug

My disclaimer "WORK IN PROGRESS" GOD is working overtime with many other things and may have thought he can miss a visit. On a serious note just prayer for all these fine young men trying to do the right thing, especially mine he is a good hearted person just needs lots and lots of prayer not bashing! Without that we have nothing. Just look around the devil is hard at work. We all live in glass houses so we should be very careful where we throw stones.


I am so glad to see this post after reading pages of chest-thumping and pissing matches. When I read Craig O's post with the quotes from O'Neill's Facebook page, I couldn't help but think that this is a kid who needs some support from BYU fans because apart from his wonderful mother, he isn't getting much from some of his friends back home.



If we really believe all the "Tradition, SPIRIT, Honor" and "Band of Brothers" slogans that represent our team, then it is time as fans to band together, treat O'Neill like we would our brother (because he literally is) and follow Linette's advice and offer prayers and support. I know during tense moments in games, I find myself praying that we'll break a big play or that we'll win. I don't think God cares that much about the scoreboard, but I know for sure that he cares about his sons who line up on that field, and this time is a crucial crossroads for one of those sons. Not to sound too paternal, but we would all do well to support O'Neill in our words, our thoughts and our prayers.
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Botkin wrote:
I am Mike Botkin. I have known OC since he was in 6th grade. Played AAU basketball with him and HS ball and had a part in him transferring to Harmony from Osceola.



I wasnt going to post on here, but when I seen this....



http://www.heraldextra.com/sports/college/byu/darnell-dickson/article_cd3f683a-c757-11df-be7c-001cc4c002e0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



That made me upset.



Let me tell you guys the truth about Ty Anderson.



You want to blame OC for his action?



Which, some, sure, is OCs fault, some have happened for a while, BUT....Big A(what we called Ty Anderson) is 1 of the biggest factors in OCs "attitude"



About his attitude....when we won games...he didnt care if he had 1 catch, or 20 catches. He was as happy as can be. But, when we lost, you better stay away from him, or else he blow up and let everybody know that it is unacceptable.



back to Ty....



Ty and his brother Justin(Lil A)....had 0 discipline in our program. Players were allowed to miss "mandatory" weights, summer conditioning, kids came late to practice(like 45 minutes late) and nothing was said to them, kids cussed out coaches NUMEROUS times during games and practices, and nothing was done. No discipline. Kids ran the program. I dont think I ever even heard either of them raise their voices. Kids would sit there and cuss out assistants and they would just sit there with a dumb glare....it was almost laughable at how they won games because they just outtalented everybody else.



That is the place where OC came from.



Then...when recruiting got heavy...Lil A and Big A used him as their stepping stone...used him sooo bad. They both know what type of kid he is, and what type of place BYU is....but Lil A applied for GA spot 2 years before OC was a senior, and didnt get it, then when OC arrives and he is a 6'3 210 WR that BYU wants...all he does is sit in OCs ear for 2 years about BYU this and BYU that...and promising about taking care of him while he is there...etc.





I want O'Neill to transfer, no doubt about it. But, I support him if he stays. I want him to transfer, because he needs a clean start, it is clear that the coaches do not want him at BYU. I mean, sure, he isnt the easiest player to deal with, BUT...you cannot tell me Luke Ashworth is a better WR then OC? OC is probably the best "ATHLETE" I have ever seen in my life.



Play any position in football, can punt, can kick, can throw the ball 80 yards...can do ridiculous dunks, can shoot, can play hoops, can play soccer, can bomb a baseball, dominated FLORIDA track.



I want him to be used to his full potential, not be treated like he isnt wanted.



I just wanted to clarify Ty Andersons statements. Ty used OC to get into college just like his younger brother Justin did. Then, as soon as they leave, its time to bash OC when something goes wrong when in 2 years of coaching him, they never gave him 1 rule to follow because they were scared their meal ticket would leave.



Mike Botkin


Sorry to give Botkin more attention here, but his post inspired me.



If O'Neil is as good an athlete as you claim he is, then he would have had plenty of D1 offers. Any of which would have had the same affect on boosting Anderson's credibility as a coach. Why would sending a kid specifically to BYU have landed them a promotion? Doesn't make sense.



OC could have gone to any school and Anderson would have reaped the same professional benefits, so I don't buy your used and abused story.



Second, if OC's team was as chalk full of talent as you claim they were, if Anderson were trying to get players into college to boost his own career than it actually would have been in Anderson's best interest to establish well disciplined team.



I know Justin. He's a smart, kind man. Really, really doubt he would make such an error and "use" a person for his own gain. Here's an idea. Maybe Anderson had OC's best interest in mind. Knowing OC and what OC needed, maybe Anderson steered OC to BYU because he knew in the end OC needed BYU as much, if not more, than BYU needed OC.



Drop the chip on the shoulder, Botkin. The world isn't out to "get" your boy OC.
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Brayden Green
Since Beatnik posted athletes he has played with, I figured I would post my list of athletes I've either shared the field with or seen in a movie...



Michael Jordan

Shaquille O'neal

Hakeem Olajuan

Charles Barkley

Shawn Bradley

Mugsy Bogues

Arnold Shwarzenneger

Rocky

Rudy

The Titans

Dan Marino

John Elway

Barry Bonds

Jerry Sloan

Cal Ripken Jr.

Sammy Sosa

Dwight Howard

Jerry Rice

Shoelass Joe Jackson

Pete Rose

The Chicago Bears

The Miracle United States of America Gold Winners

The US soccer team that beat England in the 60's

Babe Ruth

Hank Aaron

Joe DiMaggio

Nuhammed Ali

George Foreman



I could post more, but I think I have sufficiently proven my coolness.



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Cougarbib
I was really worried about where this thread was headed. Clearly a diverse set of cultures, backgrounds, and attitudes that weren't meshing.



I am pretty confident that if we all could somehow walk a thousand miles in each others shoes some greater mutual understanding and respect and trust would emerge.



I have met Bronco Mendenhall multiple times and I want to assure O'Neil and all of his friends and supporters that Bronco Mendenhall cares deeply and personsally about O'Neil Chambers as a person and from an eternal perspective. I trust that Linnette can see and feel that love even though it is tough love right now.



I hope O'Neil hunkers down, works hard, and steps up.





I will keep a prayer in my heart for o'Neil and a mother that clearly loves her son.



Go Cougars



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BlueIsBetter wrote:
Since Beatnik posted athletes he has played with, I figured I would post my list of athletes I've either shared the field with or seen in a movie...



Michael Jordan

Shaquille O'neal

Hakeem Olajuan

Charles Barkley

Shawn Bradley

Mugsy Bogues

Arnold Shwarzenneger

Rocky

Rudy

The Titans

Dan Marino

John Elway

Barry Bonds

Jerry Sloan

Cal Ripken Jr.

Sammy Sosa

Dwight Howard

Jerry Rice

Shoelass Joe Jackson

Pete Rose

The Chicago Bears

The Miracle United States of America Gold Winners

The US soccer team that beat England in the 60's

Babe Ruth

Hank Aaron

Joe DiMaggio

Nuhammed Ali

George Foreman



I could post more, but I think I have sufficiently proven my coolness.



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Can't believe you didn't include Hercules
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Mars


OC was the #2 WR, the #1 PR, and the #1 KR on the team last year, and heading into this season. So the whole "BYU coaches haven't given him a chance" thing is a pretty shallow attempt at deflecting a lack of success.



O'Neill is a good WR, but he's no McKay Jacobsen. He's no Austin Collie either. Doesn't have the speed, the hands, the route-running, or the work ethic. And there's no shame in being less talented than other people.



It's not the drops or the fumbles that concern me so much. I could care less about flipping the bird, taping off lockers, or getting a little confident talking to reporters. That's life. But it's the honor code violation as a freshmen, being suspended during a week of spring ball as a junior, missing some fall camp because grades are an issue, getting kicked out of a practice- those things simply aren't O.K. for an upperclassman. Eventually everyone needs to wisen up and grow up.



At the end of the day, JJ DiLuigi is our main offensive threat this year. McKay is our best WR. Apo and Hoffman have stepped in as our #2 and #3 receivers in practice. Chambers had earned a spot ahead of Ashworth and Hafoka (as well as Peterson and others). The return positions are up for grabs with DiLuigi, Jacobsen, Hoffman, Falslev, etc. BYU just needs to play as a team, and win as a team. Prima donna attitudes not needed.
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imuakahuku
Botkin wrote:



Every respectable coach in Florida laughs when somebody brings up the Andersons.


So there are some respectable coaches in Florida? It's just been funny that the D-1 schools with the most police records (in other words players with parole officers) seem to be located in the sunshine state. Doesn't U of Florida hold that title this year?



The running joke was that the reason BYU struggled with Florida teams was because their players were just as old as our! :bug:
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imuakahuku
NebraskaCoug wrote:

My disclaimer "WORK IN PROGRESS" GOD is working overtime with many other things and may have thought he can miss a visit. On a serious note just prayer for all these fine young men trying to do the right thing, especially mine he is a good hearted person just needs lots and lots of prayer not bashing! Without that we have nothing. Just look around the devil is hard at work. We all live in glass houses so we should be very careful where we throw stones.


I am so glad to see this post after reading pages of chest-thumping and pissing matches. When I read Craig O's post with the quotes from O'Neill's Facebook page, I couldn't help but think that this is a kid who needs some support from BYU fans because apart from his wonderful mother, he isn't getting much from some of his friends back home.



If we really believe all the "Tradition, SPIRIT, Honor" and "Band of Brothers" slogans that represent our team, then it is time as fans to band together, treat O'Neill like we would our brother (because he literally is) and follow Linette's advice and offer prayers and support. I know during tense moments in games, I find myself praying that we'll break a big play or that we'll win. I don't think God cares that much about the scoreboard, but I know for sure that he cares about his sons who line up on that field, and this time is a crucial crossroads for one of those sons. Not to sound too paternal, but we would all do well to support O'Neill in our words, our thoughts and our prayers.


I second that.
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CougarClaw
imuakahuku wrote:

My disclaimer "WORK IN PROGRESS" GOD is working overtime with many other things and may have thought he can miss a visit. On a serious note just prayer for all these fine young men trying to do the right thing, especially mine he is a good hearted person just needs lots and lots of prayer not bashing! Without that we have nothing. Just look around the devil is hard at work. We all live in glass houses so we should be very careful where we throw stones.


I am so glad to see this post after reading pages of chest-thumping and pissing matches. When I read Craig O's post with the quotes from O'Neill's Facebook page, I couldn't help but think that this is a kid who needs some support from BYU fans because apart from his wonderful mother, he isn't getting much from some of his friends back home.



If we really believe all the "Tradition, SPIRIT, Honor" and "Band of Brothers" slogans that represent our team, then it is time as fans to band together, treat O'Neill like we would our brother (because he literally is) and follow Linette's advice and offer prayers and support. I know during tense moments in games, I find myself praying that we'll break a big play or that we'll win. I don't think God cares that much about the scoreboard, but I know for sure that he cares about his sons who line up on that field, and this time is a crucial crossroads for one of those sons. Not to sound too paternal, but we would all do well to support O'Neill in our words, our thoughts and our prayers.


I second that.


Third.
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Guest
I'm really feeling like this conversation has run it's course and I think I'd like to lock the thread. No use beating a dead horse here.
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