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Leach has been fired ....

by kfilly20 · 12/30/2009

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SpiffCoug
While the new statement by the trainer is somewhat different it still maintains that Leach didn't hurt the player only treated him poorly and that he disagreed with the approach - not from a medical standpoint but from a personal/ethical one.
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snoscythe
What you see now (trainers qualifying their statements, assistant coaches who spoke out for Leach now trying to make peace with the James family, etc.) is people striving for job security.



When the pro-Leach statements were made, Leach was just suspended and was still their boss. Now, Leach is fired, and these trainers, coaches suddenly realize "Oh, S###! I backed the wrong horse!" And then the CYA statements immediately follow.
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CougarPeasant
I tried to watch the TT vs MSU game and was sickened by how ESPN was making James out to be the second coming of Tebow the Lord.



Seriously, they are pushing this story so much that they have no credibility at all anymore. I can't even bother to watch sports on their network because of their extreme bias.



I think they finally crossed the line from gross negligence to malice towards Leach.
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Schmoe
If this had been any other kid, we wouldn't have even heard about it. But since it's this little b*tch we get the story of the year.
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bball
We are witnessing the politically correct pack attack mentality on this issue. There really is no issue, but it whiny, spoiled kid sends a letter to the administration, makes accusations, and they fire the coach. Making an accusation like James did is the same as accusing someone of sexual abuse. The accused has no defense, innocent or not, the mere accusation assumes guilt. And the accused reputation is forever tarnished--even if he is later exonerated.



I really hate this about the world we live in, it has become so convolutedly stupid, it is hard to give it any credibility. And it also demonstrates the lack of courage on the part of leaders and administrators. They just follow the PC script and refuse to have the courage to do what is right.



But I'm willing to bet, the money TT saved by firing Leach, and whatever gain they think they obtained, will be overwhelmed by the negative fallout from this action. Coaches, players, and parents will all be reluctant to support a school with a gutless administration like TT has demonstrated.
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CAFB_04-12
bball wrote:
Making an accusation like James did is the same as accusing someone of sexual abuse. The accused has no defense, innocent or not, the mere accusation assumes guilt.

Except, in the case of Leach there are eyewitnesses with sworn affidavits. Here's what I think happened:



1) James is cleared to practice by team doctors (is this true?)

2) James doesn't feel like practicing because he just had a concussion and is a weenie

3) Leach doesn't like that his player is whining again about practicing

4) Leach tells the trainers to get him off outta his face, lock him in a room, and keep him there (kind of like I do with my 5 year-old)

5) Trainer's like, "um, okay."

6) James stews over this for a couple days, tells his dad what happens, dad calls the AD...

7) AD gets call from dad and thinks, "hmm, I've been wanting to get rid of Leach's contract for awhile..."

8) Leach refuses to sign the AD's fat little girlfriends apology letter

9) AD gives Leach the boot for "cause."



I have a feeling that this will be settled out of court. The University doesn't want to drag this in to public court for everyone to see.
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SpiffCoug
Sounds about right.
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GolfDiveNCougs
CAFB_04-12 wrote:
I have a feeling that this will be settled out of court. The University doesn't want to drag this in to public court for everyone to see.

Which is the PRECISE reason I hope Leach makes an absolute SPECTACLE of this. Put this ALL over the court system. I'm talking litigation against not ONLY the school, but members of their heirarchy PERSONALLY, the boosters (shoot, info in that email chain ALONE could probably have a case built around it), then go after ESPN for libel, and Craig James personally for slander. Sure, if it became a slugfest he'd probably end up with less money out of it, but it would finally show the College Football Overlords that you can't throw lies around to cement public perception then throw a bit of money at the problem to make it go away.



If your dog craps on the carpet, YOU RUB HIS NOSE IN IT, and he'll guaranteed not do it again!!!
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snoscythe
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
If your dog craps on the carpet, YOU RUB HIS NOSE IN IT, and he'll guaranteed not do it again!!!


Ha-ha! You called Adam James "crap."
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GolfDiveNCougs
Well, that's correct, he is, but sadly, no, I wasn't referring to the whining little whelp. It's been my sad experience that silver-spoon kids don't really learn much at all from life. They're so used to having everything given to them that they take literally EVERYTHING for granted. In a way, I almost consider it a form of abuse. Parents who do not teach their children personal integrity and accountability do their children a tremendous and devastating disservice. Adam James is sadly about the LAST person who'll learn anything from this little episode.
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bball
James was not "locked" in a shed, he was told to go to the shed, but he was not locked in. The trainer was in there with him.



I think...if all the assistant coaches left and got jobs elsewhere, then they would be caught between a rock (the administration) and a hard place (loyalty to Leach), and they could testify honestly and be forthright in what they say. Otherwise, they will all have to be careful, or they could lose their jobs too (probably will anyway if a new HC comes in).



If Anae gets hired away, we should try to get Riley (TT play caller for the bowl game), not sure what his real position is, but man I loved his play calling.
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Mars
bball wrote:
If Anae gets hired away, we should try to get Riley (TT play caller for the bowl game), not sure what his real position is, but man I loved his play calling.

LOL. I think he's the defensive coordinator, and that Leach calls his own plays.
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CAFB_04-12
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
If your dog craps on the carpet, YOU RUB HIS NOSE IN IT, and he'll guaranteed not do it again!!!

Does that really work?
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CAFB_04-12
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
Adam James is sadly about the LAST person who'll learn anything from this little episode.

Oh no, sir. He learned a lesson that will serve him well in politics, business, and some religions.



If you're rich enough, popular enough, and loud enough--whatever you say will happily be spun into truth by the lie-weavers in this world.
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guyinleftfield
Mars wrote:
If Anae gets hired away, we should try to get Riley (TT play caller for the bowl game), not sure what his real position is, but man I loved his play calling.

LOL. I think he's the defensive coordinator, and that Leach calls his own plays.

Leach calls the plays, Riley called them in the bowl and I believe they mentioned he coached the receivers. But I have to agree, I loved the play calling.
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CougarClaw
CAFB_04-12 wrote:
Adam James is sadly about the LAST person who'll learn anything from this little episode.

Oh no, sir. He learned a lesson that will serve him well in politics, business, and some religions.



If you're rich enough, popular enough, and loud enough--whatever you say will happily be spun into truth by the lie-weavers in this world.


Ain't THAT the truth.



Kind of like how the NCAA is all about the teaching kids strong values and work ethics? It's not about making money and administrations are all about facilitating that personal growth.



RIGHT?
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BerliNY
CAFB_04-12 wrote:
Making an accusation like James did is the same as accusing someone of sexual abuse. The accused has no defense, innocent or not, the mere accusation assumes guilt.

Except, in the case of Leach there are eyewitnesses with sworn affidavits. Here's what I think happened:



1) James is cleared to practice by team doctors (is this true?)

2) James doesn't feel like practicing because he just had a concussion and is a weenie

3) Leach doesn't like that his player is whining again about practicing

4) Leach tells the trainers to get him off outta his face, lock him in a room, and keep him there (kind of like I do with my 5 year-old)

5) Trainer's like, "um, okay."

6) James stews over this for a couple days, tells his dad what happens, dad calls the AD...

7) AD gets call from dad and thinks, "hmm, I've been wanting to get rid of Leach's contract for awhile..."

8) Leach refuses to sign the AD's fat little girlfriends apology letter

9) AD gives Leach the boot for "cause."



I have a feeling that this will be settled out of court. The University doesn't want to drag this in to public court for everyone to see.




This is what I don't understand. If #1 is true doesn't that completely negate any argument that James needed to be protected? Which is worse, getting the crap knocked out of you during a full-contact football practice or not being able to sit down in shed for a couple of hours? If the trainers cleared him for practice who cares what Leach makes him do? It can't be worse than the practice he was cleared for ... right?
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snoscythe
Today in Waco, the news reported that Texas Tech asked for, and was granted, permission to approach Art Briles (Baylor's coach) about the position.



Briles told Tech he was "absolutely not interested in speaking" about the job.



Ouch. It hurts to be turned down cold by BAYLOR'S coach, but when you run one of the most popular and successful coaches out of town like Tech did to Leach, they're going to have a hard time luring someone away from a job. They better stick to interviewing the unemployed (Tuberville?) and current coordinators.
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UVACoug
And Briles seemed to be their No. 1 choice. At least it sounded that why from the internal emails that were released. Who on earth fires one of the most innovative offensive minds in the country to hire the head coach of Baylor?
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